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Kayle Questions

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atsmith893

Senior Member

05-27-2011

I completely understand kayle is more of a late game champion, but I'm looking for any tips on improving her early to mid game presence by possibly reworking any items I'm using.

Currently my item build is:
Fiendish codex
Boots, usually mercs
codex -> Nashors
Hextech
Rageblade <- most games end here, if they don't I build defense if needed or work on triforce...


As I'm sure you can tell this is a hellishy expensive build, right around 9K. Games typically end while I'm working on Rageblade or shortly after its completion.

I have 2 really big issues (that I can see) with this build, first is that my mana regen is lacking. I constantly am taking trips to the fountain to regen my mana or will be shouting "oom" between team fights, sometimes even running dry towards the end of a fight completely.

The second issue here, is that I don't have any damage until I get Hextech, which is after I have finished boots and nashors, so you won't see any damage until almost 7k gold into the game.

I could move hextech up in priority in this list and get it in place of nashors, but then I would lose out on CDR which seems to be a pretty big deal for my overall damage output. I would also lose out on the 10 mana regen, something I desperately need more of already.

What could I do to improve these 2 problems and is there something else I'm missing entirely?


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Leninon

Senior Member

05-27-2011

I stopped tie-ing up com

OOM-Out Of Mana...wow
THEY told me "NO ONE CARES" so there is really no reason outside of EXCUSE; Which is right since the fight stops when fronts are missing.

I play coop vs ai but I get dizzy.

Know when to recall and when to use abilities to max....TEDIOUS

Farm~4-10 on return trips ( depends if your a Fighter or a "Play Priest&quot

You went with boots so you cant manage cashflow at site, nor do you Spam Speed spell at Start.~900g

Your out of mana--Your support then........ .......

I dont have mana issues since there are 2 goals as this bad character

1.PVP then leave and return-get cash from kills (good conditions)

2.Starve the COM and farm at the right time and same time--Mainly push them back and farmZONING (bad conditions)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kxGQ3gWdrM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kxGQ3gWdrM)

notice shes even sora which I might play after Ashe
PLEASE dont take this the wrong way, but Ive play Kayle with many equips.....-.-#

gl Bye


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A Ravenous Panda

Senior Member

05-27-2011

ok.
both earlyand late game i am more of a support. Mid game i rambo alot, and I help by laning with a carry. I babysit until the first tower is destroyed and then rambo.
i take my heal first, then my slow, then 1 point in my e. i level my R>Q>W>E. unless my lane partner is agrresive, in which case i swap my w and q. (i tend lane with a competent AD melee carry, i.e. yi olaf and xin)
i start with meki pendant.
build tear, get lv 1 boots
morellos evil tome
boots of lucidity
catalyst
rageblade
gunblade
banshees
angels

this gives enough regen (with my runes being AP quints, man/5 blue and yellow and magic pen reds) to hardly be oom, enough AP and AD to 1 v 2 and make my heals enough to change team fights. I dont main kayle anymore, but i play her for fun with my friends, and this is the build that works for me.
Hope this helps...


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Leninon

Senior Member

05-27-2011

???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDhFsqRT6Hk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDhFsqRT6Hk)

this is an example of bad roles of everyone... dont know about morgan tho she is better than Kayle she might be the one pulling it........

Note that she is in healers front then 2nd front but fails due to build


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Leninon

Senior Member

05-27-2011

bad start......guess why


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Leninon

Senior Member

05-27-2011

Sorry if this affends author. Intent educational.


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Leninon

Senior Member

05-27-2011

*video author


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Leninon

Senior Member

05-27-2011

One of the points is>

If your not going to engage in front Why berzerkers???


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Leninon

Senior Member

05-27-2011

If you end with attack sword why not start with something similar>It appears she only needs ~30-40attack for lv 1-6 for dominance

If your going with ap then why not something that betters ap builds NOT HYBRID SHAMWOW

Ashe and Shen were the complete opposite to their roles, but not the worst notice it was KAYLE.

If you go support go SUPPORT SOMEONE

Furthermore,....RageBlades downside>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXhS0MuREjA&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXhS0MuREjA&NR=1)


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Leninon

Senior Member

05-27-2011

Sorry if this offends video author. Intent educational.

NOW the author gets overconfidence and LATE GAMING from the atk sword and shifts too soon to 1st and 2nd front without follow up equips to this contrary/altern build.

Without armor she cant tank 1st front for long and falls back to 2nd, then there is not enough damage to sustain dominance to back to healers front....

Hope this helps with something. Last post
gl Bye


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