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How do we make ryze a more viable high teir character without increasing his pubstomp

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Silent Reaper

Senior Member

03-02-2010

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Craixis:
... then he would still be a pub stomper, and he'd be OPed...
I mean, how often do you see Ryze without his ult on in a fight?
You'd have to lower the damage output for that, but then, really, what's the point. He's a decent champ now, I just don't think the higher ELO guys like using him, because he's difficult to learn when it comes to countering his counters (he has alot, for one champ, and some completely shut him down like you wouldn't believe.)


As a fiddle player, its really easy to counter him.

Fear + Drain = Ryze half Dead

Fear + Drain + Rylai's Scepter = Ryze Dead


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JonTehKnight

Senior Member

03-02-2010

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SonicTheHedgedawg:
it wasn't a response to you


it was an allusion to common suggestions for him from the test realm.


Ah, well suppose it WAS made AoE, except those that aren't hit with the main spell are only snared for half (or less) of the full duration. So it would be more like an interrupt so they don't run too far or stop wailing on your carry for a moment


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SonicTheHedgedawg

Senior Member

03-02-2010

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Silent Reaper:
As a fiddle player, its really easy to counter him.

Fear + Drain = Ryze half Dead

Fear + Drain + Rylai's Scepter = Ryze Dead

too true...

even before you factor in fiddles long-ass silence


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SonicTheHedgedawg

Senior Member

03-02-2010

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SgtJon117:
Ah, well suppose it WAS made AoE, except those that aren't hit with the main spell are only snared for half (or less) of the full duration. So it would be more like an interrupt so they don't run too far or stop wailing on your carry for a moment

yes, a half durration snare would still be okay.




wouldn't solve ryze's biggest problems though:

spreading out, flashing away and just staying out of his range are really hard for him to counter effectively.


an AoE snare would not solve any of these problems, it would just make it better once he did connect and increase his pubstomping pwnage


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Hermanwii

Recruiter

03-02-2010

ryze is fine.


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