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Nunu 22 Champs can now break his Ultimate

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Perilya

Senior Member

03-01-2010

At last count 22 champs (at least I may have missed some) had stuns that could stop Nunu casting his Ultimate. Now granted he has a powerful ult if it works but this seems a little unfair when many champs have ults that work every time.

Most games these days with Nunu involve charging into battle, stopping, casting ult, being stunned and then being dead.

Seems that everyone knows the weakness now so unless you are lucky enough to come up against an opposition group with no stuns, Nunu can only use his Ult for minions, which is not particularly useful.


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Detha

Recruiter

03-01-2010

Now, think about it this way. Nunu uses his ult, and he is spammed with stuns. All stuns in the opposing team are used on Nunu. Then Ryze pops in and starts spamming his spells, however, the opposing team doesn't have any stuns left to use on him, and he rapes the entire team.

Nunu's ultimate deals insane damage if fully channeled, this is why people will use all their CC or Flash out to try and stop it, which leaves them without flash or stuns/silences to use on the rest of their teammates. You might not be able to get big damage out on everyone, but you sure are useful by soaking all the stuns/silences. If you can get it off - all the better, the entire team is now on insanely low health. It's win/win, really, so your ultimate actually "always works", it just doesn't always work by dealing damage, but rather by soaking stuns.


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Alphacide

Member

03-01-2010

nunus ult is OP alrdy, shut the hell up. Im tired of riot basing class balence off lvl 10s like you


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yatenkun

Senior Member

03-01-2010

I never see Nunu doing good in team, its because the name of thread says everything,
With katarina its not so difficult because she starts channeling and you can still hit few daggers, but with nunu its like never doing damage.
the only way when i saw Nunu rocking was when i was in a team without any chance to disable his ulti, he went 12/3


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Gorbi

Junior Member

03-01-2010

Quote:
Alphacide:
nunus ult is OP alrdy, shut the hell up. Im tired of riot basing class balence off lvl 10s like you



nunus ultimate is definitly UP

against good players you will never hit a full charged ulti -.-*


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DayDemonz

Senior Member

03-01-2010

Yeah... But some how i got a quadra kill with his ult a couple days ago, it was awesome!


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Munkey20

Senior Member

03-01-2010

lets compare Nunu's and Katarina's Ultimates(As seen on the wiki):

Nunu: (Active): Nunu begins to sap the area of heat, gradually slowing all nearby enemies. When the ability ends, he deals massive damage to all enemies caught in the area.
While channeling for 3 seconds, slows nearby enemy units' attack speed and movement speed. After channeling, enemies caught in the area are dealt 375 / 550 / 750 (+3 per ability power) magic damage.
Cooldown 0 sec Cost 150 / 225 / 300 Mana Range 550

Kat: Active): Katarina goes into a state of extreme focus, throwing daggers with unrivaled speed at one enemy champion per level of the spell.
Katarina goes into a state of extreme focus, throwing daggers with unrivaled speed at 1 / 2 / 3 enemy champion(s). Each dagger deals 50 / 65 / 80 magic damage plus the higher value between 50% of her total damage or 30% of her ability power.
Cooldown 60 sec Cost Channeled Spell Range 550

The most damage I've ever seen Kat's ultimate deal is around 300-400 total against any targets within range. Her's is cut off by stuns and silence, and she usually has very low health and defenses so she is also killed very quickly. She has no stuns or slows to keep her targets in range. And you can't even use it against Minions. It might be semi useful if it could clear out a cloud of minions quickly, but no. you get close enough to use your ultimate and might get in 2 seconds worth of damage then are killed, stunned and killed, silenced and killed, they simply run out of range after taking 100 damage(which your basic attack and other abilities hit harder than), or you end up having to shunpo or flash away to avoid dying for making yourself a sitting duck for a few seconds.

Nunu can atleast luck out and get someone who's stun is on cooldown and stick out the damage if they get close, or if they are right next to them when activated he slows them maybe long enough to keep them in range to take the full damage(which hits really freaking hard if you have any AP at all). And if you needed to you could destroy a group of minions pushing hard on a tower easily by casting this.

Can we do something to make Kat worth buying? She needs damage or survivabilty or some type of stun/slow/poison/silence/harmful effect besides a short 50% healing debuff when you use 2 skills together. let shunpo slow them after it hits when you use killer instincts with it. Let Death Lotus have a poison effect when hit or a stun if they get hit by 3 or 4 daggers. Give Kat players something to make them not be giant bullseye's that says, "We wasted our money on a useless character that unless built just the right way with enough luck involved in being fed, we become an asset to the enemy team because we can't deal enough damage to kill anything, and we can't live longer enough to be any use to our team."


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Fbsunny

Senior Member

03-01-2010

Maybe you should not initiate with Nunu's ult in the middle of 5 enemies then? You can either use it as a great AoE slow with minimal damage but you are an amazing distraction, or you can get a BV then wait for most of the stuns/silences to get used on your tank and then you flash+ult in and get a penta kill. It's not a spell you should expect to hit every time, because if it did it would be incredibly OP.

Think about it, if you didn't interrupt Nunu's ult and it was doing well over 2k damage to 5 targets, while slowing them down so your team can also attack them much easier it would be you either have a Nunu on your team or you lose.

Nunu's alt is also very good when you use it against 2-3 hero's. This way you can pay more attention to when stuns and silences and flashes are used, so you can make sure your ult will actually get off. Even without his ult, Nunu has the best slow in the game with a pretty good nuke, a way to heal himself, and a very good support ability. If you are playing in higher ELO where your ult is less effective these attributes still make Nunu a good champion to have on your team.


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RHINO Mk II

Senior Member

03-01-2010

Amumu initiation + Nunu Ult = GG


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Fennec

Recruiter

03-01-2010

Thats also 22 heroes that can help Nunus utli go off for max damage...
They gave him the option to use his utli before its done channeling for less damage. i think that evens out how powerful it is.
Also as Fbsunny said they just used all of their stuns to make Nunu stop now they don't have much left for the rest of the team who was bashing on them while Nunu was AoE slowing.


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