Advice on laning against Malzahar?

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Ookami1225

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07-07-2011

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Mostly want to know for early game, especially playing as a carry with no heal options other than potions.


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pp

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07-07-2011

gank him and you'll be fine


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mekabar

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07-07-2011

Stay away from your creeps that are infected by Malefic Visions. Don't stand still in one place, or you may get harrassed by call of the void. Thats about it. Malzahar does not have enough mana to farm and harrass you constantly early game.


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Crede777

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07-08-2011

Most of Malzahar's abilities are dodged or avoided by running forward/back and not left/right. This applies to his silence, malefic vision (distance yourself from infected minions), his pool, and his suppression ult (distance yourself from him). Keep that in mind.


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Elston Gunn

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07-08-2011

Quicksilver sash


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Centrifuze

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07-08-2011

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Originally Posted by Crede777 View Post
Most of Malzahar's abilities are dodged or avoided by running forward/back and not left/right. This applies to his silence, malefic vision (distance yourself from infected minions), his pool, and his suppression ult (distance yourself from him). Keep that in mind.
Yeah, what Crede said. Don't focus on auto-attacking the minions, just last hit, and while waiting for a last hit, keep juking in and out in an unpredictable pattern. Start out with a couple health pots, and watch him just burn his mana away. Also, if you can successfully harass him, you can scare him away from getting his last hits, and therefore preventing him from getting any goodies that might give him better mana or mana regen.


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VonDoom2099

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07-08-2011

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Yeah, what Crede said. Don't focus on auto-attacking the minions, just last hit, and while waiting for a last hit, keep juking in and out in an unpredictable pattern. Start out with a couple health pots, and watch him just burn his mana away. Also, if you can successfully harass him, you can scare him away from getting his last hits, and therefore preventing him from getting any goodies that might give him better mana or mana regen.
I agree with this, although a smart Mal will grab Clarity which will help his mana issues.

Also after he has his ult, do not chase him with less than half health.

The damage a Malefic Visions + Null Zone + Nether Grasp can be a killer (literally). Even worse if a frenzied voidling is incoming.


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Ayestes

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07-08-2011

If he's pushing hard with Malefic Visions then you need to either push back while avoiding damage, properly last hit at your tower while avoiding damage, or the most optimal... get him hardcore ganked and out power him. If he's not pushing hard with Malefic, he will run dry on mana if he's harassing you. If he's not harassing you, what would be the problem?


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TG Scorpian

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07-08-2011

Malz can push you hard in mid but hes squishy i recommend that you push back


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Xx420NoSc0p3xX

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07-08-2011

Well, you can counter my malzahar playing style. I bring flash and ignite as malzahar and go mid lane.

1. E skill is his bread and butter, he is nothing without the farm he can get on that.
2. Tanks are a bad play as his W skill does percent damage on health.
3. Don't get silenced, especially if you are a spell spammer.

Alright, so if you are soloing a malzahar, chances are he will harrass you just by farming up minions, since he only has a few skills early game that have a decent cooldown you should avoid your own minions but charge for malzahar, don't go for the kill or you will end up dead, unless you are Xin, jax, or Blitz. Alright, so a malzahar will stop his farm when harrassed, this is when he will either attack you or run back. Assuming he hasn't gotten to level six yet there is no fear of engaging him as long as you don't take minion damage, and when you get the chance, destroy his voidling as soon as possible, it allows his to farm twice as efficiently. Next step is summoner spells. take into play what he and you both have. If he has ignite and his e skill doing Damage over time, chances are unless you are at a higher health them him you just lost the fight. Really all you need is one stun, taunt, or fear to win the battle.

If he has flash however don't let him get to the tower, push him back into the minions so they can attack him as well. worst comes to worst ghost/flash out of there use a health pot and go in again, because he wasted his skills and his mana with no decent regen from farming on minions.


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