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what makes ryze different from renekton and irelia?

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Brucebunny

Senior Member

04-15-2011

Ryze not using AP is crippling to his ability to carry


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BoltAktion

Senior Member

04-15-2011

Every week...A new champ is op

Ryze has been this way for...SOOOO LONG
And no complaints until now...

Why?
The old ryze was better anyways imo


Wtf is wrong with you people?

You wanna nerf somthin then actually do it to something that needs it, like brand.


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falcoBoat

Member

04-15-2011

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TrangLoL:
There's AP to increase spell power and Mana to determine how much one can spam skills. But now there's one champion who gets both - larger Mana pool and spell damage - in one, saving him gold for other (most likely defensive) items.


It's not the idea - Vlad scales both his damage and survivability off of a single stat he chooses (health or AP or cdr, any of them will scale both dmg and survivability). It is the implementation (in terms of how much damage per mana) and the fact that +Mana items are itemised very well: Veil is hands down the best and most bought defensive item in the game, and Frozen Heart scales extremely well as a tank item.


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Gigawattz

Senior Member

04-15-2011

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MisterYi of Wuju:
What doesn't this counter...


Morgana.


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DarkOrchid

Senior Member

04-15-2011

He is just OP in the fact that he is a ranged tanky dps. That just isn't right.

At least Swain has to build AP for instance to do his damage.


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MisterYi of Wuju

Senior Member

04-15-2011

Quote:
Gigawattz:
Morgana.


Actually it does. Even morgana can't get away from a team of ccs


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el3ctronman

Senior Member

04-15-2011

But late game even a ryze with a full gear set, will get countered by a good team.


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AWordToTheWise

Senior Member

04-15-2011

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el3ctronman:
But late game even a ryze with a full gear set, will get countered by a good team.


name one champion that cant please.


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MisterYi of Wuju

Senior Member

04-15-2011

Quote:
el3ctronman:
But late game even a ryze with a full gear set, will get countered by a good team.


I like how everyone just says he isn't OP by countering him with things that could counter any champ.

Might as well say ryze isn't OP just 5v1 him.


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Sessamo

Senior Member

04-15-2011

What is this madness? Is Ryze hardier than other mages?
Yes. Is he as beefy as Renekton, or Mundo? No.
Frozen Heart, Veil, and Rod of Ages doesn't make him immortal, it just means he lives a bit longer under focus.
MR hurts Ryze much more than it does other casters, because buying MPen items are worth much less on him.