what makes ryze different from renekton and irelia?

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MisterYi of Wuju

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04-16-2011

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My, this thread is interesting and productive.
It is explaining why ryze is OP. If you think he isn't OP, then you are stupid.


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Audhulma

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04-16-2011

the only issue i have with ryze is that his Q has like a 1 sec cd. Thats pretty much it for me since that is his single target nuke.


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Enigma4you

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04-17-2011

Ryze is actually very strong, early and late game. He is insane if played properly, and people are starting to learn how to play him. There's a reason he's being picked more often and even sometimes banned in ranked game. He at least needs his damage toned down a bit early game and that should fix it a bit. That way he'd be more like ranged carries who need to get items to do damage, and not rape all game with just a tear and catalyst.


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MisterYi of Wuju

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04-18-2011

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Ryze is actually very strong, early and late game. He is insane if played properly, and people are starting to learn how to play him. There's a reason he's being picked more often and even sometimes banned in ranked game. He at least needs his damage toned down a bit early game and that should fix it a bit. That way he'd be more like ranged carries who need to get items to do damage, and not rape all game with just a tear and catalyst.
Yep. He is the same problem as tanky dps.


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MisterYi of Wuju

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04-18-2011

bump


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Nybass

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04-18-2011

Problem with tanky dps was the constant healing of themselves with lifesteal + abilities. Spellvamp on the other hand sucks; most people actually just use his ult for AoE and procing his ability than for spellvamp.

Not to say Ryze is a bad hero; far from it. But not to the level of OP tanky DPS, that's for sure, where I've seen them tanking 1v5 and still dishing out decent damage. Ryze, even fully built, can't take on 1v3, let alone tank the entire opposing team.


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ExtraVirgin

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04-18-2011

Sounds like a good idea would be to nerf his Q and buff his E/ultimate.


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MisterYi of Wuju

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04-19-2011

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Problem with tanky dps was the constant healing of themselves with lifesteal + abilities. Spellvamp on the other hand sucks; most people actually just use his ult for AoE and procing his ability than for spellvamp.

Not to say Ryze is a bad hero; far from it. But not to the level of OP tanky DPS, that's for sure, where I've seen them tanking 1v5 and still dishing out decent damage. Ryze, even fully built, can't take on 1v3, let alone tank the entire opposing team.
real problem is him buying survival items and scaling damage with them.


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Aelloon

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04-19-2011

Except that during late game when Ryze throws around his balls of lightning for 500 damage Malzahar can ult someone for 1500 damage.


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MisterYi of Wuju

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04-20-2011

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Except that during late game when Ryze throws around his balls of lightning for 500 damage Malzahar can ult someone for 1500 damage.
lolol you mean comparing malz ult with ryze q?

q has practically no cd, so thats like 500 constant dmg from that 1 spell alone.
ryze can burst for like 2000 every 4 seconds or so reliably and has shorter cd than malz.
and thats not even mentioning his tankiness.