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Twisted Fate's Destiny is still broken?

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r0ck4ev3r

Senior Member

04-13-2011

Twisted Fate vs. Nocturne.

Paranoia (Ultimate): Nocturne reduces the sight radius of all enemy champions and removes their ally vision in the process. He can then launch himself at a nearby enemy champion.

Destiny (Ultimate): Twisted Fate reveals all enemy champions (including stealthed champions). While Destiny is active, Twisted Fate can use Gate.

When both spells are active (regardless of casting order), Nocturne's Paranoia has precedence over Twisted Fate's Destiny. Nocturne only reduces the sight radius of a champion, yet Twisted Fate completely loses his Destiny vision.

(Why is Destiny considered ally vision, when its his vision?)


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AntiTcb

Senior Member

04-13-2011

Working as intended. You lose sight of all external sources except your own personal field of vision. Any vision granted by a buff/spell/ability is lost.


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r0ck4ev3r

Senior Member

04-13-2011

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AntiTcb:
Working as intended. You lose sight of all external sources except your own personal field of vision. Any vision granted by a buff/spell/ability is lost.


Yet Destiny reveals all enemy champions, why does Nocturne have precedence over Twisted Fate?


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r0ck4ev3r

Senior Member

04-13-2011

I believe the casting order should have an effect,

If Twisted Fate casts Destiny and then Nocturne casts Paranoia, Twisted Fate should lose vision.
If Nocturne casts Paranoia and then Twisted Fate casts Destiny he should still have vision.


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LordBane999

Member

04-13-2011

it doesn't work that way, sorry but with noc's ult every enemy champion has their sight reduced to a preset range, plus it's not that his ult isn't working it still does, it's just that anything outside this range during the 4secs noc has ult up can't be seen regardless

a clever mechanic but you can still slow and teleport with tf's ult so don't worry so much


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PoliceWoman Cait

Member

04-13-2011

I think it should be exactly as r0ck4ev3r said. Dunno why it isn't.


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Sk8ers

Recruiter

04-13-2011

hacking ww video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOLpA71NDRc


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r0ck4ev3r

Senior Member

04-13-2011

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LordBane999:
it doesn't work that way, sorry but with noc's ult every enemy champion has their sight reduced to a preset range, plus it's not that his ult isn't working it still does, it's just that anything outside this range during the 4secs noc has ult up can't be seen regardless

a clever mechanic but you can still slow and teleport with tf's ult so don't worry so much


As i've said "why does Nocturne have precedence over Twisted Fate?" Twisted's ulti gives him vision, i don't think new heros should have precedence over older ones. (sub note: why are the new heros getting taller and taller?)


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AntiTcb

Senior Member

04-13-2011

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r0ck4ev3r:
Yet Destiny reveals all enemy champions, why does Nocturne have precedence over Twisted Fate?


Nocturne has precedence because Paranoia strictly states that you lose all sources of vision except that generated by your champion's presence in a certain area.


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r0ck4ev3r

Senior Member

04-13-2011

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AntiTcb:
Nocturne has precedence because Paranoia strictly states that you lose all sources of vision except that generated by your champion's presence in a certain area.


And Destiny states you gain vision of all enemies. Just because a hero is newer it should not be given precedence over an older one.


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