this is what you basically did with ryze

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DeadRamza

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02-21-2010

overload damage decreased from 1000/2000/3000/9000 to 999/1999/2999/8999

spell flux damage increased to 379348759837598237984790875/"infinite integer value"/ instant kill from 1000/5000/99999/999999999999999999

spell flux range increased to half of the map (now ryze can attack someone behind a turet without taking damage)

rune prison cooldown decreased to 1 second
rune prison duration increased to 15 minutes

ryze now can be used as a tank without having defense and health equips



ryze can now kill 2 people at level 1 soloing with his bouncing electric ********s


when are you going to fix him and put him back to what he was before??
he ws very strong before
so why making him even stronger??


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Zeta

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02-21-2010

QQ some more.

Ryze sucked before. Any other Champion could insta-gib him in one hit.


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Amarath

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02-21-2010

For rework Ryze was a good ton, he did have a bit insta gib aspect (but most dps mages do). But ryze was the one mage that had wonderful sustained dps with hsi passive and auto attack, that mechanic was very different and added a different way to play a mage archatype , however, it was removed and really it should be put back in and his spells scaling should be neffed quite a bit to compensate for the ap to attack passive (maybe have an ability
[his ult] be togglable between close to where it is now or the ap to attack damage. [can't toggle on cd or 10 sec after attacking]).


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Zeta

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02-21-2010

Making an Auto-Attack mage is pretty silly. If you want that though, buy Lichbane.


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Amarath

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Making an Auto-Attack mage is pretty silly. If you want that though, buy Lichbane.
Which is like saying making heroes that are not all the same is kinda silly , if you want different heroes buy different items.

DIVERSITY IS GOOD.

And lichbane does not give near the same results.


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Zeta

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02-21-2010

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DIVERSITY IS GOOD.
Except when it takes up an ability to give a single character two filler passives.

If you want a game where getting 4 abilities doesn't do anything but buff your right click, DoTA is 99% that.

Filler = bad. Ryze's old Arcane Mastery was obvious filler. Just like Teemo's Move Quick, Ashe's Scout's Bounty, Kassadin's Nether Blade, Sivir's Spellshield - etc. etc. etc.


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No Cow Level

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02-21-2010

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Originally Posted by DeadRamza View Post
overload damage decreased from 1000/2000/3000/9000 to 999/1999/2999/8999

spell flux damage increased to 379348759837598237984790875/"infinite integer value"/ instant kill from 1000/5000/99999/999999999999999999

spell flux range increased to half of the map (now ryze can attack someone behind a turet without taking damage)

rune prison cooldown decreased to 1 second
rune prison duration increased to 15 minutes

ryze now can be used as a tank without having defense and health equips



ryze can now kill 2 people at level 1 soloing with his bouncing electric ********s


when are you going to fix him and put him back to what he was before??
he ws very strong before
so why making him even stronger??
You're a senior member - act like one. His damage wasn't profoundly buffed. In fact, I don't think it was buffed at all. His survivability was touched up so he wouldn't die in three hits. He did the same damage as before, but you never noticed it because you could slaughter him quicker than he could touch you.

As for attacking behind a turret, this works as every spell works. The turret switches to you after an ally takes damage. The Ryze that hit you with Spell Flux within the turret range cast it and immediately ran backwards.


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Burning Rose

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Originally Posted by DeadRamza View Post
overload damage decreased from 1000/2000/3000/9000 to 999/1999/2999/8999

spell flux damage increased to 379348759837598237984790875/"infinite integer value"/ instant kill from 1000/5000/99999/999999999999999999

spell flux range increased to half of the map (now ryze can attack someone behind a turet without taking damage)

rune prison cooldown decreased to 1 second
rune prison duration increased to 15 minutes

ryze now can be used as a tank without having defense and health equips



ryze can now kill 2 people at level 1 soloing with his bouncing electric ********s


when are you going to fix him and put him back to what he was before??
he ws very strong before
so why making him even stronger??
I'm assuming you must play Amumu, because all I see is crying here.


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Layotees

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02-21-2010

What kind of bull**** is this, bring back old Ryze? You mean that character that went from able to kill one person every ult cooldown to able to kill absolutely no one ever over the span of a team picking up banshee's veil?

Old Ryze was terrible, I saw him less then than I see Warwick now.


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Elementz

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02-21-2010

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Originally Posted by DeadRamza View Post
overload damage decreased from 1000/2000/3000/9000 to 999/1999/2999/8999

spell flux damage increased to 379348759837598237984790875/"infinite integer value"/ instant kill from 1000/5000/99999/999999999999999999

spell flux range increased to half of the map (now ryze can attack someone behind a turet without taking damage)

rune prison cooldown decreased to 1 second
rune prison duration increased to 15 minutes

ryze now can be used as a tank without having defense and health equips



ryze can now kill 2 people at level 1 soloing with his bouncing electric ********s


when are you going to fix him and put him back to what he was before??
he ws very strong before
so why making him even stronger??
Ryze was terrible before. If you can't counter him then you don't know how to play..


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