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**Larias**:

So I was playing around with math, and you're a little off. Note: I include aegis aura because I don't know any group that doesn't have one.

__READ THIS FIRST__: I use the additive, where DR is added directly to armor/MR resistances, instead of the correct formula, which is it's added after. For example, 200 * .5 * .85 is different than 200 * .35 (85 vs 70). This means that my value for Leviathan is higher than it should be. However, it is not 2000g over. At most, it's around a 500g difference.)

Starting MR of 30 (amumu), chalice, mercury treads, aura from aegis of the legion = 119, or 54.3% reduction. To get to 69.3% reduction, you would need around 226 magic resist. This is a total of 107 magic resist. Assuming 16g per point of mag resist (roughly what negatron cloak is - nullmagic cloak is actually 16.6g per point), this is 1712g.

Starting armor of 51.3 (level 12 amumu), just 1 armor item (sunfire cape, standard amumu build), and chalice aura: 120.3 armor, or 54.6% reduction. To get to 69.6%, you would need 229 armor. This is a gain of 108.7 armor. Assuming armor is valued at 16g (again, split between cloth armor price/chain vest price), this is worth 1739.2g

Health gained from Leviathan fully stacked: 640. At 2.6g per health, this is 2132.

Total gold: 5583. Not 3500.

Don't try to say "complicated math" to back up your facts.

**Edit: apparently http://www.leagueoflegends.com/items/view/3041/mejai_s_soulstealer is out of date. Updated mejai's gold worth.**

Oh, random note. AP is worth ~21.6 gold. Mejais fully stacked gives 220. This is 4752 gold. Cooldown reduction is cheap, roughly 21g per %(this is assuming the steep cost of Fiendish Codex. For ridiculously lower prices, check out Brutalizer), or 315g for mejai's. Total worth? 5067.

I think this highlights the problem with mejais and leviathan's.

Leviathan's worth comes primarily from getting all 20 stacks, rather than the power per stack.

So, basically the gold worth gained per stack is much higher for mejai's than leviathan's (Until 20 stacks is acquired, in which case, leviathan becomes a powerhouse, but that's going to be rare in a real match.)

so if we calculate gold per stack based on your numbers,

Leviathan's gains 83.2g per stack if my math is right (32 hp a stack.)

Mejai's gains a wopping 216 gold per stack (10 ap per stack.)

so essentially, Leviathan's only becomes on equal footing with mejai's when it's fully charged. Otherwise it's an inferior snowball item.