shacos role

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IRuleAll

Senior Member

02-19-2011

So I recently purchased Shaco, and as far as KDA goes, I am doing quite well with him. I have gotten really good at smiting big wraith, killing double golems, then red lizard camp. This sets me up for a lvl 3 gank at 3 min on mid, which usually turns out successful.

However, I am a little confused as to what his role is. When I gank a lane, and either kill or make the enemy back, should I stay in the lane and try to take tower, or continue ganking/jungle? I gank early and often as Shaco, and by the 13 min mark, I have either killed or assisted in 8 kills usually. Even with me ganking all lanes and putting fear into the enemies about over extending, we still are not winning.

To all Shaco players, what role do you assume as Shaco, since he falls out so hard late game? Do you try to push hard as your primary focus, or is your primary ganking and feeding your allies that scale better late game then you do?

Also, what about dragon control? Where does this fall in Shaco's priorities?


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CaptainSoda

Senior Member

02-19-2011

Gank lanes. If you're successful have your teammates in that lane both recall to buy items while you get xp / push the lane. Your job is to be a pusher / ganker. While late game you may not have as big as a role as you think, you still function well as a hero such as kassadin, where your job is to take out opposing carries swiftly and silently. If you're very good at "doing your job," you will be a huge help to your team later on.


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DukeUuito

Senior Member

02-19-2011

He's among the best backdoorers in the entire game. His early game ganks aren't anything to laugh at, either.

Using him any other way is a waste of potential.


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Gwenness

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02-19-2011

Get a tower down if you can. Counter-jungle. Box the enemy jungler's route. Try to coordinate your team for dragon, but you should be able to solo it when you get your clone.


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VS Dreamweaver

Senior Member

02-19-2011

Shaco is a god of dragon because at six he can easily solo it (Which is pretty good now that it got so buffed) with both wriggles ward and Jitb protection. Plus alot of ward placement in low ELO doesn't actually show dragon so going through the wall to it will get you good free dragon kills.

post six, stay and kill the tower in a solo lane. Before that, go back to jungle. You drop off very quickly past 20 minutes even if you're fed out of you ass. Mostly just sidelane push and grab objectives past then (especially their jungle buffs. No one is better for this). especially make sure to ward up their jungle laster and pick of lone heroes literally every chance. Shaco is a nuisance more then a snowballing god, but he is a very strong, very lethal nuisance.


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Crowlz

Senior Member

02-19-2011

gank

gank

gank

gank gank

and gank

then push

push

push push

and push


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Darcken

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02-19-2011

His goal as a jungler is to gank constantly and destroy the enemy's will to push. Also, even if you fail to kill them, as long as you didn't die they'll have at least a slight bit of paranoia.


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DanielFolston

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02-19-2011

When you go on stonewalls008 way of jungling... you might wanna reach lvl 5-6 to gank... because this way makes you spend lots of cash in red potions.
I suggest you to use my way.
Starting items:
Long Sword + health potion
Summoner spell : Ghost and Smite
(use ghost to reach blue camp faster)

5-7 JITBs on Blue Golem Camp --- Smite him (get lvl 2 choose Shiv)
2 JITBs on Wolf camp
4 JITB on red Camp (smite should be up by second JITB Use shiv to bring the lizzard)
Gank Mid Lane Or the lane closer to the red buff
If Gank succed stay in lane to reach lvl 4
Go b and get Madred's Razor + Boots + Health/Mana potions
If Gank Fails:
-you die : go back to jungling
-you scare them away: Stay in lane.
Get Wriggles Lanturn asap (you no longer need to place JITBs for Buff Minions)
at lvl 6 Go to Dragon
Place JITB - - use Hallucinate - - Smite him (if available)
After that the Lanin phase is close to ending now you must Rush:
-Sheen: the Decieve procs sheen pasive.
-Trinity Force: if they have lots of burst Dmg (gives everything you need)
-Madred's BloodRazor : if they have lots of Hp/Mr Tanks

Core Items :
Wriggles lanturn
Boots Of movility
Sheen

Must Have Items:
Madred's bloodrazor
Trinity Force
Phantom Dancer

Optionals:
Guardian Angel
Banshee Veil
Frozzen Mallet
Yoosumu Ghostblade

Masteries are :
Offencive / Defencive / Utility
21 0 9

always Take 4 poins on Awareness =D


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TheAnomaly

Senior Member

02-19-2011

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Originally Posted by DanielFolston View Post
When you go on stonewalls008 way of jungling... you might wanna reach lvl 5-6 to gank... because this way makes you spend lots of cash in red potions.
I suggest you to use my way.
Starting items:
Long Sword + health potion
Summoner spell : Ghost and Smite
(use ghost to reach blue camp faster)

5-7 JITBs on Blue Golem Camp --- Smite him (get lvl 2 choose Shiv)
2 JITBs on Wolf camp
4 JITB on red Camp (smite should be up by second JITB Use shiv to bring the lizzard)
Gank Mid Lane Or the lane closer to the red buff
If Gank succed stay in lane to reach lvl 4
Go b and get Madred's Razor + Boots + Health/Mana potions
If Gank Fails:
-you die : go back to jungling
-you scare them away: Stay in lane.
Get Wriggles Lanturn asap (you no longer need to place JITBs for Buff Minions)
at lvl 6 Go to Dragon
Place JITB - - use Hallucinate - - Smite him (if available)
After that the Lanin phase is close to ending now you must Rush:
-Sheen: the Decieve procs sheen pasive.
-Trinity Force: if they have lots of burst Dmg (gives everything you need)
-Madred's BloodRazor : if they have lots of Hp/Mr Tanks

Core Items :
Wriggles lanturn
Boots Of movility
Sheen

Must Have Items:
Madred's bloodrazor
Trinity Force
Phantom Dancer

Optionals:
Guardian Angel
Banshee Veil
Frozzen Mallet
Yoosumu Ghostblade

Masteries are :
Offencive / Defencive / Utility
21 0 9

always Take 4 poins on Awareness =D
Stonewall doesn't have a shaco jungle route up. He has said repeatedly that he doesn't play shaco much. And any shaco jungle route that involves waiting until level 5 to gank is a bad route.