@Riot Vlad Nerfs

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02-12-2011

Let me just start this out by saying....I hate Vlad. I hate his playstyle, I hate playing with or against him, and I hate playing as him.

BUT, as much as I hate him I feel like these nerfs are unfair. The Reds have already stated multiple times that they think Vlad is mediocre and irritating as far as designs go but NOT OP. I feel they are just doing to this to suppress outcry from the community.

Now I know the Reds also said that they planned an entire rework for him.

When I heard that he was getting a rework I was quite happy as I know many others were as well.

But I have to question whether or not this is still the case with the recent nerfs Vlad is receiving. It seems like they just took the easy way out by nerfing him until people stop playing him or he becomes useless.


So my question is simply this.
Is Vlad still getting a rework? Or are these nerfs so you don't have to fix whats broken?


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02-12-2011

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Shaella

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02-12-2011

he's getting nerfed out of viability because he's bad for game health

Just like Gangplank, Twitch, Evelynn ect.


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Ep1cLeprechaun

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02-12-2011

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he's getting nerfed out of viability because he's bad for game health

Just like Gangplank, Twitch, Evelynn ect.
does "Bad for game health" mean "people has to adapt to them instead of following a cookie cutter build, and think about decisions"?


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02-12-2011

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he's getting nerfed out of viability because he's bad for game health

Just like Gangplank, Twitch, Evelynn ect.

That's the laziest design philosophy I've ever heard of.


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Mynt

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02-12-2011

He's numerically stronger than Annie in every way. That's rare that it happens in every way. So nerfing his numbers isn't going to make him weak.


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ZodiarkSavior

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02-12-2011

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Originally Posted by Shaella View Post
he's getting nerfed out of viability because he's bad for game health

Just like Gangplank, Twitch, Evelynn ect.
Just like Ezreal, Galio, Anivia, Ryze, Akali, Karthus, Poppy, Sion, Ashe, Kayle, Renekton, Nasus, Katarina, Karma, Cassiopeia, Kassadin, Taric, Lux, Morgana, Trundle, ect


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02-12-2011

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He's numerically stronger than Annie [i]in every way.[i] That's rare that it happens in every way. So nerfing his numbers isn't going to make him weak.
Except he doesn't have the same skillset as Annie.

Their ratios differ for a reason.

So that comparison is void.


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Shaella

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02-12-2011

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Originally Posted by Ep1cLeprechaun View Post
does "Bad for game health" mean "people has to adapt to them instead of following a cookie cutter build, and think about decisions"?
No, it means they're not very fun to play against and suck a lot of strategy out of the game

Gangplank's deny is problematic
Evelynn being a good jungler can be problematic because it forces a very passive early game
Twitch was problematic because his lategame was quite simply. STUPIDLY POWERFUL, he put out more damage than any other champion in the game in a matter of seconds to an entire team
Plus, stealth is a bad mechanic right now
Vlad is problematic because he's quite simply, BORING to lane against


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