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the list of people to not ult as karth

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PhantomChaos

Senior Member

02-02-2011

You forget Kassadin and his 15% Magic Damage Reduction passive.


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Cythras

Senior Member

02-02-2011

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YangTianChou:
not true at all, you don't know if their skill/ult is on cool down or not, and even it is not on cool down, they might not have enough mana for it.

plus for kayle and zilean even they could survive from your ult they will still waste their ult. which means team fight less annoying.

p.s. sona heal for 130...that won't save her.. agren have 25 additional mr passive which will not save him... galio's shield only work on other team member.. lux' bubble shield very less amount, malph's stone sheild only refresh if he not been attack for 7 sec, yi's meditate will not save him from requiem most of the time since it is slow heal and have low health.

oh.. if you have so much problem with mr, perhaps you should grab void staff.


Fully leveled, yi gains 300 magic resist and armor w/ meditate


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Qbr12

Senior Member

02-02-2011

dont forget shaco can dodge with his ult and vlad can troll-pool


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TL Frolo

Senior Member

02-02-2011

Katarina can WE for damage reduction, a well timed shaco ult pops it iirc


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Riyshn

Senior Member

02-02-2011

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YangTianChou:
galio's shield only work on other team member


False. Standard tactic to shield yourself before Idol for more MR>AP.


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Eph289

Senior Member

02-02-2011

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YangTianChou:
not true at all, you don't know if their skill/ult is on cool down or not, and even it is not on cool down, they might not have enough mana for it.

plus for kayle and zilean even they could survive from your ult they will still waste their ult. which means team fight less annoying.

p.s. sona heal for 130...that won't save her.. agren have 25 additional mr passive which will not save him... galio's shield only work on other team member.. lux' bubble shield very less amount, malph's stone sheild only refresh if he not been attack for 7 sec, yi's meditate will not save him from requiem most of the time since it is slow heal and have low health.

oh.. if you have so much problem with mr, perhaps you should grab void staff.


This post has so much wrong with it.

Kayle's ult without too much CDR is on a 1 minute cooldown. So their team plays defense for a minute for it come back. Big deal. A CDR Zilean will do the same and it's better than feeding Karthus.

Galio's shield works on whoever Galio pleases.

Prismatic Barrier is awesome before Karthus gets a Deathcap. Can easily soak up 300 damage from a Requiem.

Meditate is awesome and gives a ton of MR if you level it up. Something like 300.

Please, learn to play, or at least learn the game. Your teammates will thank you.


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Ticklestick

Senior Member

02-02-2011

Quote:
YangTianChou:
not true at all, you don't know if their skill/ult is on cool down or not, and even it is not on cool down, they might not have enough mana for it.

plus for kayle and zilean even they could survive from your ult they will still waste their ult. which means team fight less annoying.

p.s. sona heal for 130...that won't save her.. agren have 25 additional mr passive which will not save him... galio's shield only work on other team member.. lux' bubble shield very less amount, malph's stone sheild only refresh if he not been attack for 7 sec, yi's meditate will not save him from requiem most of the time since it is slow heal and have low health.

oh.. if you have so much problem with mr, perhaps you should grab void staff.


So much wrong in one post... my brain almost imploded.

Kayle and zilean have lower cds on their ults than karthus, it's a bad trade. 130 health absolutely can save someone, Garen's active reduces damage by 30%, Galio can shield himself. Lux's shield scales decently and can shrug off 5-700 damage depending on what stage of the game. Yi's meditate increases his armor and MR by a MASSIVE amount.


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YangTianChou

Recruiter

02-02-2011

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minkus1000:
Fully leveled, yi gains 300 magic resist and armor w/ meditate


true but he is already lvl 18 by then..so the mr won't be as efficient as lower level. plus Yi have low health which most likely still able to nuke him to death.

100 mr
100/200 = 50%

400 mr
400/500 = 80%

you do 60% less damage in this case, but there are counter item like void staff.

with void staff

100 mr against void staff
60/160 = 37.5%

400 mr against void staff
240/340=70%

with void staff you will still do around 1/2 of the damage.

karthus's ult hit 552 +0.7ap, Yi have max of 1992 health by lvl 18. so with 500 ap item you will deal 552+350=802 damage

against 100 mr with void staff
802 * 62.5% = 501.25 = 25% of yi's max health

against 400 mr with void staff
802*30% = 240 = 12% of yi's max helath while he meditate


so by theory yi on meditate can still be kill even while he meidtate, just harder. plus when he begin meditate he will stop moving, which means people on your team could rape him while he channel.


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wizuriel

Senior Member

02-02-2011

Soraka's ult makes my Karthu try to cry at night; though since he is a lich I guess he just makes weird sounds and sings a sad song.


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Nubsta

Senior Member

02-02-2011

You forgot to add anyone with above 100 MR and a red pot.