Madreds Bloodrazor

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killsteel

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01-05-2011

It gives +30 damage along with the magic damage which makes a bigger difference an squishies.


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Alphacide

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01-05-2011

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Originally Posted by Faeces View Post
you're an idiot

/end of discussion
The reason I started this thread, was to educate noobs like you that complain at a carry for getting bloodrazor when the enemy team "isn't tanky enough for it, and it doesn't do any damage to squshies"


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RygorMortis

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01-05-2011

I am using values for HP and MR for tanks and squishies that I find to be fairly common, and am not factoring in the 30 bonus damage that bloodrazor gives, nor the base attack damage of the attacker, only the magic damage done by bloodrazors passive

4% of a 2200 hp squishy is 88 bonus damage, 4% of a 3200 hp tank is 128 bonus damage. Now if our squishy only has 80 MR, he will take 49 bonus damage, or 2.22% of his max health. If our tank has 180 MR, he will take 58.88 bonus damage, or 1.84 percent of his max health per hit, a lower percent than our squishy.


Of course, this is assuming that our tank is stacking MR. If he isnt, the numbers change quite a bit. Say he only has 100 MR, this would result in him taking 64 bonus damage, or 2% of his health. At 80 MR (the same as our squishy) he is taking 85 magic, or 2.66% of his max health.

So yes, it seems that if the tank has more MR (even though he has more HP) bloodrazor will be doing more damage in terms of total % of life, to the squishy


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Alphacide

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01-05-2011

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Originally Posted by RygorMortis View Post
I am using values for HP and MR for tanks and squishies that I find to be fairly common, and am not factoring in the 30 bonus damage that bloodrazor gives, nor the base attack damage of the attacker, only the magic damage done by bloodrazors passive

4% of a 2200 hp squishy is 88 bonus damage, 4% of a 3200 hp tank is 128 bonus damage. Now if our squishy only has 80 MR, he will take 49 bonus damage, or 2.22% of his max health. If our tank has 180 MR, he will take 58.88 bonus damage, or 1.84 percent of his max health per hit, a lower percent than our squishy.


Of course, this is assuming that our tank is stacking MR. If he isnt, the numbers change quite a bit. Say he only has 100 MR, this would result in him taking 64 bonus damage, or 2% of his health. At 80 MR (the same as our squishy) he is taking 85 magic, or 2.66% of his max health.

So yes, it seems that if the tank has more MR (even though he has more HP) bloodrazor will be doing more damage in terms of total % of life, to the squishy
Correct!


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Alphacide

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01-05-2011

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Of course it does. That's obvious. Even if Madred's passive did true damage, it would still kill squishies faster than tanks because of the AD bonus it grants. And even if you took that away, it would still kill squishies and tanks at exactly the same speed... but because your auto attacks do regular damage, squishies would still die faster.

That's why they're called squishies.
Also correct!


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Azarthes

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01-05-2011

So do auto attacks, and spells, and DFG, and reflected damage.... and leaving them alone. And CC spamming.

Squishies always die faster than tanks.

Bloodrazor just 'helps' you kill the tank quicker for the ace


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Arkaether

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01-05-2011

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Kills squishies faster than it kills tanks.
Discuss.
Tanks have MR, the true "anti tank" item is last whisper imo


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Mctot

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01-05-2011

combo it w/ malady and stick it to a tank shred shred shred, oh you died now, time to get a black cleaver shred shred shred


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