good champ picks against AP Top

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edgarlikesmen

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14 Hours Ago

Are there any good champ picks to counter the AP top meta (Ryze, Gragas, Swain, Lissandra, Lulu, and now cassiopeia)?? They pretty much destroy melee bruisers.


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FourteenFCali

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14 Hours Ago

hecarim


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edgarlikesmen

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14 Hours Ago

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hecarim
Ah I have been meaning to learn him. His burst is incredible.


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CruelAngelsB3at

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14 Hours Ago

Go with Jarvan. Your e+q gap closer is a hard cc knockup, as well as the fact that it is longer range than most targeted gap closers on other bruisers. You can also harrass from range with your q, and your damage can come in both burst mode (E+q knockup + your passive + ult), or extended trades with your autos due to your e enhancing your attack speed. Imo, he's particularly good against ryze, assuming you play carefully and always land the knock-up.


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edgarlikesmen

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14 Hours Ago

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Go with Jarvan. Your e+q gap closer is a hard cc knockup, as well as the fact that it is longer range than most targeted gap closers on other bruisers. You can also harrass from range with your q, and your damage can come in both burst mode (E+q knockup + your passive + ult), or extended trades with your autos due to your e enhancing your attack speed. Imo, he's particularly good against ryze, assuming you play carefully and always land the knock-up.

I was thinking about J4 too, but he seems pretty niche and falls off hard if he doesn't snow ball early. Xin Zhao is on the same boat, extreme gap-closing burst but needs a lot to keep up.


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FourteenFCali

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14 Hours Ago

malzahar is a good pick against ap tops as well


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Diamond Song

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14 Hours Ago

counter liss/kayle/teemo/vlad/etc with darius.

then counter engage them on their own homefront as you learn the darius mid game.


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CruelAngelsB3at

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14 Hours Ago

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I was thinking about J4 too, but he seems pretty niche and falls off hard if he doesn't snow ball early. Xin Zhao is on the same boat, extreme gap-closing burst but needs a lot to keep up.
Even if you do manage to lose lane, remember that Jarvan still excels as a cc tank. Your damage may not be comparable to others, but you can always build tanky and intiate/peel for your team in teamfights.

Also, assuming you can catch back up later, all Jarvan needs is a Hydra for all his damage requirements, after, or before that, you can safely build as a pure tank.


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7ha7guy777

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13 Hours Ago

maybe galio because he gets ap from mr


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Slave35

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13 Hours Ago

Against AOE APs, Nasus is actually a great counter. He can take almost everything they have to dish out, and just keeps getting stronger against them.


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