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Cho'gath ap or tank?

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Claricorp

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12-30-2010

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"Off-tank" is not a thing in League of Legends, it's ****ing terrible advice.

There is no taunt rotations or adds to pick up. "Off-tank" means you do what? (A role is what you do. Being hard to kill isn't a role. Calling something hard to kill a tank or an off-tank is just spreading bad misconceptions people already have.)


Tanks usually try to take damage for your squishy but powerful mages and carries, and help them to get kills.

Off tanks are tough enough to be able to run in front of an ashe to block some skill shots and generally have some pretty decent CC.

A straight up Tank cho is a massive target, tons of health armor and magic resist, and can focus easily on using there abilities to keep the team alive, hence being a tank.

An Ap cho gath will still be tough because of his ult, and his 2 decent CC abilities can deal great damage and help drive off enemies. If your main tank is down, or doing something else, or someone surprises you from behind, an off tank can run up cc like hell and put themselves in between the carries and the enemies. Ashe cant do that. Ap Cho can.


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Carados

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12-30-2010

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Claricorp:
Tanks usually try to take damage for your squishy but powerful mages and carries, and help them to get kills.

Stopped reading.

So in your definition, the tank's job is to make sure the people they play against have never heard the phrase "Don't focus the tank?"


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HMS BUTTPEE

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12-30-2010

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Stopped reading.

So in your definition, the tank's job is to make sure the people they play against have never heard the phrase "Don't focus the tank?"


Cho is unique in that he can get so large they can't actually click on your carries.


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Cenerae

Senior Member

12-30-2010

Cho serves best as the guy who protects his squishies, but can also be the guy who wreaks havoc among the enemy squishies. If you have a tanky CDR build with a bit of AP (like a good Morde build) then you are plenty hard to kill, do respectable damage, and have a ton of CC to throw around. I think this is a far superior way to build him than straight AP or straight tank. He already gets a lot of health from Feast, so he doesn't need a ton of tanking gear. A randuin + spirit visage, or frozen heart + abyssal scepter. That sort of thing. Maybe a Rylai's later.

The problem with building straight up tank is that you have long cooldowns and it's harder to protect your team/disrupt the enemy team. The problem with straight up AP Cho is that if you wanted a nuker, let's be perfectly fair, there are a lot of better picks for damage. Feast is nice but it's point blank range and a tanky Cho's feast is just as deadly anyway.

If you aim for high CDR then your Rupture has a pretty quick cooldown, and you can do a lot of knockup/snaring on the guys that go for your squishies. Then you can Feast them to tell them to back the hell off.


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Eppa

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12-31-2010

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"Off-tank" is not a thing in League of Legends, it's ****ing terrible advice.

There is no taunt rotations or adds to pick up. "Off-tank" means you do what? (A role is what you do. Being hard to kill isn't a role. Calling something hard to kill a tank or an off-tank is just spreading bad misconceptions people already have.)

Tank is not a roll either. Meatshield and Initiator are.


I like Tank Cho(works at 1600 elo at least) If they ignore you you get to whatever you want to their squishies, with 2 cc's and 1 massive nuke it works well. Lategame getting something like Abyssal sceptre or Zonyas is a good idea though as you want to end fights at low health not max health but anyway imo Cho needs to either Jungle or Solo top. Mid is ok but not great. Skill priority is W>E>Q>R. Q is to unreliable and mana costly to level up. W is BOSS.


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Rallos

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12-31-2010

I still think Cho is best as an "offtank" : Catalyst + Rylai + Mercs + Aegis

You are "tanky enough' to not die too fast, and your dmg cant be ignored.


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HMS BUTTPEE

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12-31-2010

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Q is to unreliable and mana costly to level up


Q is actually 90 at all levels right now. And with the recent minor speed buff it's actually not all that unreliable anymore.

That being said, W is still probably more consistent.


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Carados

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12-31-2010

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Eppa:
Meatshield and Initiator are.

How do you actively meat shield?

Rely on the other team to focus the tank?


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Cenerae

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12-31-2010

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How do you actively meat shield?


By waddling around in front of your team and getting hit by all the harrass before the teamfight I suppose.

Doesn't sound like a very smart way to go about things really.


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Carados

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12-31-2010

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I still think Cho is best as an "offtank"

"Off-tank" isn't a thing in League of Legends.

Unless you can define in it as something that an "off-tank" actively does that seperates them from every other role in the game.


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