Garen: What's the deal?

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PraiseEvil

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12-06-2010

people hate him, people love him. He's supposed to jungle, he can tank but he's not a tank...
WTF!!!!!! People who are experts with Garen, what builds, techniques, and strategy's do you use? Or do most people think they know how to use Garen but don't know ****?


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Alivarious

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12-06-2010

Don't stack sunfires like a tard. 1 maybe 2 at most is ok but even 2 is pushing it. Ghostblade, get it, starting at brutalizer. Randuins omen, get it, starting at wardens mail. Sunfire cape, get 1 maybe 2 starting at giants belt. Merc treads, not boots3. Force of nature, get it, starting at null mantle. Last item is up to you but I like to get a frozen mallet.

Playstyle? Bushes=GG. If you think you can zone the enemy then start boots1 and 3 hp pots, otherwise dorans shield and 1 hp pot. I like going boots 1+ pots as I can keep them in judgment range the whole spin. R-E-Q-W skill order, spin to win.

You may be tanky but you are not a tank. Use your silence on mages, not just for extra damage. Learn when to back off and when to DEMACIA!


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Xtchizobr

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12-06-2010

Garen is overpowered. stop playing him.

i'm incredibly bored with seeing Mordekaiser and Garen in every match.

ult needs super-massive nerf, and that's just for starters.


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Aemon Darkstar

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12-06-2010

Garen isn't worth playing anymore, really. He can still go HURRRRRMACIA!!! early game and deal a rather scary amount of damage, but the moment your enemy picks up a Chain Vest, that goes out of the window. You can't tower dive early anymore, thanks to the Courage nerf. Your Q, being your only initiation skill, isn't that good either.
Garen pretty much becomes his ult, by mid-game. The ONLY thing he can do is charge into the middle of enemies, go Q, W, E and pray his team does something constructive in that time. And after that's done, he'll just R the lowest HP enemy to nab a kill. That's really it.
There are better tanks than him. There are better off-tanks than him. There are better DPS than him.

And his OP'ness vanished the moment they nerfed Courage. Destroyed his tower-diving potential.


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Cenerae

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12-06-2010

You need to build Garen tanky with 1, maybe 2 sunfire capes (but no more than that). Your job in teamfights is to run through the enemy team, locate the most dangerous squishy on their team and kill them. Trying to focus on tanks is a waste of effort, because you don't do enough damage for that (but it's plenty good enough to scare squishies with). Trying to build Garen with DPS items (such as Ghostblade) is a bad idea, because his abilities scale poorly with DPS items, and you won't be doing a lot of autoattacking anyway.

It's a pretty simplistic playstyle really. You're not a tank - you have no way to keep your squishies safe. But you can go make the enemy squishies run away from the teamfight, or kill them, or at worst, encourage the enemy team to actually focus fire you instead of your actual damage dealers.

Garen's real power is in the early game, but he needs someone to snare or disable the victim for him to get any real damage done. Unless it's an idiot that likes to face check bushes, anyway.

edit - I notice how someone came through the thread and just downvoted everybody in it. Heaven forbid people discuss Garen. It's clearly an illegal practise!


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PraiseEvil

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12-06-2010

so when Garen was "OP" he was actually just a good champ? Not OP exactley right?


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Alex Pan

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12-06-2010

No. He was wildly OP. OP to the point where he could take on three champions at level 1, Deny an entire duo lane to all but the best laners, and auto-kill your carry lategame by using Q Exhaust W R, and not die.


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PraiseEvil

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12-06-2010

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Originally Posted by Alex Pan View Post
No. He was wildly OP. OP to the point where he could take on three champions at level 1, Deny an entire duo lane to all but the best laners, and auto-kill your carry lategame by using Q Exhaust W R, and not die.
****...


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Cenerae

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12-06-2010

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Originally Posted by PraiseEvil View Post
****...
His damage was the same, but Courage used to be 30% damage reduction on active at all ranks, and his Judgement both broke snares and made him immune to snares while it was active.

Which needless to say made him very good at tower diving.


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OxBaker

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12-06-2010

He still is OP. A champ that is so one dimensional and easy to play has no business doing as much damage as he does.


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