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A nasus with an infinatly farmed q hits a sion with a thornmail and infinite HP

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Firrox

Senior Member

08-23-2013

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TheSoulPunisher:
Assuming Nasus has 0 items based on the title of the thread alone, Sion would win since thornmail damage is 30% and Nasus only gets 20% Lifesteal.

What about nasus base MR


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TheSoulPunisher

Senior Member

08-23-2013

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Firrox:
What about nasus base MR


52.5 MR compared to infinite damage from thornmail, theoretically, is nothing. It's only what, 10-20% damage mitigation? Idk.

EDIT: Wow lot's of derp calculations on me. Meant 52.5 MR.


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Khristophoros

The Council

08-23-2013

Guys... The debate is pointless. Lifesteal does not mitigate damage. It heals either before or after the damage is dealt. Either way Nasus will take the full damage which will do 100% of his HP. It doesn't matter if the lifesteal happens before or after thornmail's damage.


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Nana A Deviluke

Senior Member

08-23-2013

Report Sion for hacking since his bonus HP caps at 3,000.


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Wishing Umbreon

Senior Member

08-23-2013

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Gespens:
Technically, there is a cap. It is something that is theoretically impossible to hit.

iirc, it is

999, 999, 999, 999, 999, 999

So... Base HP + Armor would mean Sion survives.

You are right. There is a binary digit that the HP and attack damage would hit. In this case, Nasus's Q stacks would be equal to Sion's HP. I think Nasus would win because damage > HP in the great scheme of things.
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Nana A Deviluke:
Report Sion for hacking since his bonus HP caps at 3,000.

This confirms Nasus would win since his Q does stack "infinitely".


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TheSoulPunisher

Senior Member

08-23-2013

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Khristophoros:
Guys... The debate is pointless. Lifesteal does not mitigate damage. It heals either before or after the damage is dealt. Either way Nasus will take the full damage which will do 100% of his HP. It doesn't matter if the lifesteal happens before or after thornmail's damage.


The question is will Nasus die first or Sion will die first.


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tainteddaze

Senior Member

08-23-2013

that is a stupid question nasus would die due to the infinite damage being reflected onto him but he would heal for 20% of infinite damage but the burst would overflow his hp so he would die in the outcome of the damage.

Sion would probably survive tho due to how the game reads damage so sion has infinite hp and is being hit by infinite damage but he takes reduce % base damage from the armor he has. Cause now you have a paradox which can not exist so one of the paradox's has to be destroyed out and since sion has % reduce damage the paradox might just erase nasus infinite damage over the infinite hp and % reduce damage of sion. So you question is kind of pointless cause you can't have paradox's like that.


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Tiza

eSports Coordinator

08-23-2013

The cycle of life and death will continue.


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Hubert Ozwell

Senior Member

08-23-2013

I'm not sure if Sion's hp can overflow but if it can then Sion will win. This was shown in someone's stream of thresh trying to reach 99,999 souls. Eventually the cannon minion's hp overflowed and became unkillable.

If Sion's hp does not overflow it is impossible to determine whether he will die or not due to the nature of doing math on infinity. Nasus however, is guaranteed to die as others have pointed out. Unless the lifesteal calculation is done at the same time as the thornmail reflect Nasus will either die before the healing is calculated or have the lifesteal wasted since he hasn't been hit with thornmail reflect yet. A GA will let Nasus survive, but Sion can just do the same. Ultimately I'd have to say Sion has the advantage here for the above reasons.


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orghak 6

Member

08-23-2013

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RiotTiza:
The cycle of life and death will continue.


We will Q, they will QQ.