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Poisonpowder

Senior Member

08-23-2013

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Originally Posted by WookieeCookie View Post
Unfortunately it just isn't as easy at the moment as you make it seem. Especially when you have an active group of posters who routinely do their best to cause trouble for moderators and then a second later will make posts crying that they got banned. With that said, I don't think it's an unsolvable problem either. If we put a man on the moon, I think we can tame General Discussion.
I didn't say it was easy, but what we're looking at right now is angry regular members in GD breaking rules to bring attention to GD. There's a lot of moderator activity that's happening without any visible reason for doing so, and it feels like there's a lack of oversight because we simply don't know what decisions are being made and where.

More specifically, the porn "problem" is a symptom, not a cause. It is an outcry from the community and it's the only thing that has seemed to be getting Riot's attention.


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YoungSushi

Junior Member

08-23-2013

Instigating the abduction of other people's accounts in General Discussion is now confirmed legal by RIOT.


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NobSaiboot

Senior Member

08-23-2013

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Originally Posted by Better Ban Sona View Post
This doesn't excuse the general behavior of the mods when closing/deleting threads, and outright banning players though. Even if it is true in this one case, there is still a very obvious problem here.



This is just condescending. You are implying that anyone who speaks out about the issue truly doesn't care about it, and are just posting to create an uproar for the fun of it. This may be true of some individuals, but do not dismiss everyone like that.




This I fully agree with.



This one is a little sketchy, mainly because the mods here have been proven to single out certain individuals. There are many people out there posting hentai, or being verbally abusive to other players, etc. Most of them are not banned unless they are blatantly obvious in their abuse. Only certain, well known posters are more targeted.

1) Of course, they post more often, so their posts are more likely to be seen.

2) The problem here is the content they are banned for. For example, CM being deleted over the pic we are now all well aware of. Those types of pics are posted literally hundreds of times by many different posters. This is a problem with consistency.




Again, very condescending. You cite one person who is obviously trolling, or not very smart, and equating the entire group to him. That is ridiculous, and unprofessional.



You expect we all believe that? We know he doesn't personally know Ryze or Tryn, or most likely any other Rioter. This doesn't excuse the extent of the problem though, or the way it has been handled.

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com...5747#40955747I see this complaint a lot. You're assuming those players are not punished as well. Let's be real. Our forums are HUGE. There are quite a few things that get people banned on a daily basis including: "spam, porn, and generally hateful topics". Most likely they will continue to be posted and we will do our best to clean it up, but sometimes it will slip through. Regardless that doesn't excuse starting witch hunts, that's why It's ALL against the rules.

Already responded to this above.



You are trying to misdirect the real issue here. Yes, these people are problematic, but do not dismiss the entirety of us as misogynist jerks and therefore claim that we deserve no response, or better treatment.



Ok, I used to respect you, but this has gone too far. First of all, thanks for patronizing us for about the 5th time in your response, I truly appreciate it. Secondly, all of us who responded here are players of LoL, and customers, paying or otherwise (no this isn't an entitlement post). My main point here is that those of us who posted here, for the most part, actually care more about how the situation has been handled, much more than about the actual situation. Many of us don't care about XJ9, GEM, and whoever else might be involved. We care about the password changes, brute force hacking, lack of communication, mods abusing their power, etc. These are the issues that need to be addressed, and personally I couldn't care any less about what happens with the others involved, as it isn't really my business.



Seriously, stop using one rule to blatantly ignore this entire situation. Yes, naming and shaming is wrong, and shouldn't be done. But really, you are entirely missing the point of these threads here. Again, its about the actions being done, not the people committing them.



People are generally pissed because of the lack of communication in general. This is much more about what was implied rather than what was directly said.



You still can't reasonably deny that the expectations are different for different posters, regardless of what you would like us to believe. For some, all it takes is an off topic gif to be instantly perma banned (See Splendid Cake/ And it was K). For others, 25+ obscenely abussive threads might warrant a 2 day ban.



Again, since this refers to the GEM situation, I and many others don't actually care about that. Feel free to not respond to anything that happens here, and all the more power to you. This is the correct course of action in this situation.

HOWEVER, as for any person involved with hacking into other players accounts, we the public deserve to know when these people have been removed from the community, for our account safety. This isn't rocket science here.



But they do send a message, none the less.

He's dialed it back now. Try again.


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ShogunMegazord

Junior Member

08-23-2013

Hi Wookie. I'd like to talk to you for a moment because conventional means seem to fail me.

About two-to-three weeks ago my main account was perma-banned on the forums for posting a picture breaking the terms and conditions in bypassing the censor. While I agree that the ban was justified, the fact that it was a perma-ban seems to be unjustified, as up until this ban I have never been warned, banned or given some manner of talking to by the moderation. For all intensive purposes this is my first offense. I've been routinely trying to reach support on this issue but the two times my ticket has been filled out I have gotten A.) An automated response saying that Riot doesn't overturn perma-bans (Which is blatantly false) or B.) Automatically closed under the guise of being "solved".

You seem to be the leading authority on the forum behavior staff so I'm trying to be as professional as possible in reaching out to you. I am getting extremely frustrated in what should be just a simple matter of lowering a perma ban to a time ban. If you feel this is a case of "Oh you'd be an exception that everyone would want", this is not the case. The ban was justified and the only reason it would be reduced to a time ban is due to the fact that this was my first offense.

Please note that the only reason I attempt to contact you over the forums is because other threads I have made have been shoveled to other forums to die a slow death (Closing without closing, so to speak) and I am trying to handle this in a way befitting a company interacting with an intelligent and respectful individual. So, I implore you, please try to discuss my ban and if it can be lowered to a time ban. I feel that it should not be an "abuse of power" or showing favoritism to simply reduce a ban.


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Zodai

Member

08-23-2013

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Originally Posted by Poisonpowder View Post

More specifically, the porn "problem" is a symptom, not a cause. It is an outcry from the community and it's the only thing that has seemed to be getting Riot's attention.
Indeed, I have thought the same.


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TryMucinex

Senior Member

08-23-2013

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This isn't her first offense. Read up on the subject before defending her.
I am not defending her, I think you took it the wrong way.


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YoungSushi

Junior Member

08-23-2013

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Originally Posted by Better Ban Sona View Post
HOWEVER, as for any person involved with hacking into other players accounts, we the public deserve to know when these people have been removed from the community, for our account safety. This isn't rocket science here.
Said person is queing with RIOTers thats their way of investigating this.


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Skyhawke

Senior Member

08-23-2013

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But they do send a message, none the less.
Apparently they do. In your case, at least.


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IonCannonKarthus

Senior Member

08-23-2013

Sup Wookie, where's Pendragon?


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Better Ban Sona

Senior Member

08-23-2013

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He's dialed it back now. Try again.
I read the most recent post. It is much more diplomatic, but I still worry nonetheless.