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Originally Posted by Darkbyte
giving Ryze 600ap is a huge stretch, which is sad, because 3k MP is actually reasonable
@others : You guys aren't getting it. I'm not saying Veigar is bad, he is a good caster. But why would you want to pick him over Annie, or Anivia? Before his fix, he used to be a viable contender, but now he's just a short guy with short jokes.