what are the best red runes for phys chars?

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Bellicus

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11-17-2010

just for general physical chars that will benefit all. im pretty confused what to get since the penetration nerf and damage buffs. my choice is between

14.94 armor penetration
8.37% crit chance
or 21.87 damage/lv18 (thats like, almost a pickaxe!)


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Ghostbuster Tim

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11-17-2010

Mana.

Pure mana.


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Mandolus

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11-17-2010

Armor Penetration seems to be the most useful all around, same for Magic Penetration and magic characters


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Bellicus

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11-17-2010

but...i mean...15 armor penetration? you're only letting 15 of your damage getting through...if u have 200ad, then against a guy with...

110 armor-52%
106 dmg with damage
111 dmg with penetration

100 armor-50%
111 dmg if u get dmg runes
107.5 dmg if u get penetration runes

and not to mention that your damage can also go with your ability scaling (but then again, penetration can too so..hm)

really, penetration's usefulness is only after a champion gets more than 100 armor
but if the enemy team is stacking armor, id think a last whisper would be a good item
and last whisper and straight penetration stacking actually lessens the stack on each other
and last whisper enable an extra 9dmg penetration if u get straight damage
and then again, corki's E has ad scaling but would that go through penetration
wait a **** minute, his E takes away armor, and his passive has true damage

ARGHggsdhfgjsop im so confused


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Bellicus

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11-17-2010

reply pls


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Strange Enigma

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11-17-2010

armor pen errday

straight up AD or AD per level sucks, get some armorpen quints too along with the 6 points in offense for armorpen you get 31 armor pen and most champs have around 30 armor at the start so you would be doing pure damage and late on in the game champs have like 60 armor? (unincluding tanks) which would cut it off by half late game.


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ClownPen

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11-17-2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bellicus View Post
but...i mean...15 armor penetration? you're only letting 15 of your damage getting through...if u have 200ad, then against a guy with...

110 armor-52%
106 dmg with damage
111 dmg with penetration

100 armor-50%
111 dmg if u get dmg runes
107.5 dmg if u get penetration runes

and not to mention that your damage can also go with your ability scaling (but then again, penetration can too so..hm)

really, penetration's usefulness is only after a champion gets more than 100 armor
but if the enemy team is stacking armor, id think a last whisper would be a good item
and last whisper and straight penetration stacking actually lessens the stack on each other
and last whisper enable an extra 9dmg penetration if u get straight damage
and then again, corki's E has ad scaling but would that go through penetration
wait a **** minute, his E takes away armor, and his passive has true damage

ARGHggsdhfgjsop im so confused
Someone doesn't know the mechanics of Armor Penetration. Your attacks negate the amount of Armor it Penetrates. Lets say you have 21 Armor Penetration and an enemy you attack has 30. With your Armor Penetration, he actually only has 9 Armor defending against your attacks, I munch lower percentage of negated damage.