[Guide Request] Team Counter to not having Cardmaster....

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CooLTanG

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12-09-2009

Cardmaster is by far the most OP char in the game, he controls the map so easily and can be there at every team fight with a gold card to AOE stun the enemies. Not only that his pick a card has a short cooldown and can be used to stun one after another.

How do you counter that as a team with no cardmaster?

Obviously we all get cleanse but what good is a cleanse when he's got movement speed runes/masteries and he can just pick a gold card again soon after. Also he has cleanse so any chance of ganking him is him cleansing and gateing out.


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nicosharp

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12-09-2009

you can't outplay a good card master, unless you have a good card master to match him.

You either deny him everytime he thinks about wildcard wiping a creep wave, and counter gank him everytime he attempts push. This will cost you to lose otherlanes, but you need to shut down TF from farming, or its game over anyways due to item stack and mobility.

He was a lot easier to shut down before the flash nerf. with melee stun.


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Zophir

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12-09-2009

Lane Ashe against him, her range is better than his and if you harrass enough early game then it's gg.


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EchoRex

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12-09-2009

1) Crowd Control
2) Apply Damage
3) ?????
4) Win


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CooLTanG

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12-09-2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by Echo7 View Post
1) Crowd Control
2) Apply Damage
3) ?????
4) Win
1) Cleanse
2) Gate
3) ?????
4) Lose


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EchoRex

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12-09-2009

His Cleanse won't last beyond the time of you realizing what happened after he gates.

If he uses it afterwards you've already stopped him for a moment and close/extend range so you can apply damage or escape.

Also, here's a hint, his PaC effects are applied to his normal attacks, they aren't just a click and select target. I'll see if you can follow the logic of how easily countered that makes him.


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CooLTanG

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12-10-2009

I assume ur talking about exhaust or even dodging, but that doesn't help.


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SpyderMonkey

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12-10-2009

I like to thank him for the free mana on Sivir.


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Rectal Necrosis

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12-10-2009

Lolololol, you think twisted fate has movement speed. Have you seen the shoes that guy wears? I'm surprised he can move at all.

Its true, a good twisted fate can show up at any team fight or gank anyone who trying to run away, the counter for that is easy.

Focus on the largest threats first which are people like twisted and DPS builds then the tanks. And have someone stand guard when a low HP person is trying to get away. Team work shuts down the fate.


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ShowMeYourMoves

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12-10-2009

Premade VS premade is all about ganking.

None of them will be visible on the map near the end of mid and late game


Just when you are thinking about killing baron, you see destiny pop on your head. And your whole squad has to back up.

Just when you think about pushing mid inhibitor, you see TF backdooring your bottom turrent, and one of you needs to blue pill.

Just when you think about getting runes, he gate behind you and stun you and steal your runes.



TF and Teemo are very annoying when you are in a premade vs premade game.

They just know your every move like they are watching you play in your room.


As for his gold card and wild card, they are annoying, but not nearly as bad as his destiny and gate gank.


I can't think of a counter for that. However, if anybody knows how, share it please!


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