Why is Riot failing with every new Mage?

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Nostradayumus

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11-04-2010

In the interest of brevity, I'll keep the writing concise.

Since Beta:
Tanks got: Galio, Shen
Ranged DPS got: Miss Fortune, Kog'maw, Ezreal
Melee DPS got: Garen, Xin Zhao
Support got: Sona (THE end-all-be-all support atm)
Mage got: Vlad (and then he was nerfed a lot)

Riot seems confused when making new mages
Lux, Swain, Malz = sooo bad (don't expect them to get better anytime soon)

Kennen and Vlad don't work with trad. mage runepage.
Kennen = boring samey ability mechanics
Vlad = Riot was confused
wanted Support with AoE heal
public OUTCRY over another AoE heal
Riot last minute remove heal, buff damage -> mage carry
Riot nerfed him to mediocrity

anyways Annie and Anivia are still top.
Same two mages from the earliest beta.

Rough archetype histories
Tank:
Malphite->Amumu->Alistar->Shen->Amumu->Galio (most imp. changes)
Ranged DPS:
Ashe -> Corki -> Ezreal -> Kog'maw -> Miss fortune -> Corki (best believe it)
Melee DPS:
Master Yi -> Jax -> Trynd (such a short reign) -> Udyr ->Xin Zhao -> Garen
Support:
Taric -> Janna -> Soraka -> Kayle -> Sona
Mage:
Annie -> Annie -> Annie -> Vladwtf -> Annie LONG LIVE ANNIE
Pardon any order mix-ups, but you get the point

WHEN will you allow Annie to be dethroned?
HOW often do you see mages banned compared to the other archetypes (excluding Vlad anomaly)?
THIS is why people are mad about the LeBlanc nerf.

LeBlanc - barely more single target damage than Annie, much less multi-target, much less utility (CC)

DOWN WITH QUEEN ANNIE

When LeBlanc gets on the tier lists, don't expect her to be higher than the Annie Anivia ruling class bourgeoisie tyrant oligarch Illuminati RULING CLASS

Does Riot even want there to be a mage carry archetype (i.e. non CC reliant mage)?


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MASSTADEN

Senior Member

11-04-2010

wait, so because a champ doesn't use a traditional rune page, they're not an actual mage?

pretty sure Vlad is a mage. and a great, fun one at that.


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Loonybin

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11-04-2010

Mages are supposed to be strong early and scale poorly. To shut down carries. Unfortunently, they aren't.


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Nostradayumus

Senior Member

11-04-2010

I said Vlad was exception
Isn't anymore
Hint: Annie and Anivia are now better than him at higher level


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Voidgolem

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11-04-2010

Kennen: Facerolls your entire team with Slicing Maelstrom unless the player can't use Kennen/didn't build survivability because...he can't use kennen.
Vlad: Widely considered to be 'Okay'.
(AP) Ezreal: OP Incarnate until Flux stopped healing.
Malzahar: Is Okay.
Swain: More demi-tank than mage.
Lux: Better Classed as 'Support'.

*shrug*

Single-target burst mages are difficult to balance because...AoE Faceroll Meta tramples them.


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MightySnuffles

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11-05-2010

What happened to morgana? I'm sure she would like some credit as a mage or support that is still consistently banned.


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Kaylel

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11-05-2010

Why is Nostradumbass failing with every thread?


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BeastMode

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11-05-2010

i'm pretty sure you forgot about fidd- CAWCAWCAWCAWCAWCAWCAWCAW


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Nostradayumus

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11-05-2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by Voidgolem View Post
Kennen: Facerolls your entire team with Slicing Maelstrom unless the player can't use Kennen/didn't build survivability because...he can't use kennen.
Vlad: Widely considered to be 'Okay'.
(AP) Ezreal: OP Incarnate until Flux stopped healing.
Malzahar: Is Okay.
Swain: More demi-tank than mage.
Lux: Better Classed as 'Support'.

*shrug*

Single-target burst mages are difficult to balance because...AoE Faceroll Meta tramples them.
When you're playing to win, why pick "Okay" champions when you can pick "Really Good" ones?


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Kelfeno

Senior Member

11-05-2010

Lux isn't bad at all. If you think she's bad, try using her ult on cooldown in a lane.


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