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Raideshi

Junior Member

03-24-2013

Before you read the following, keep in mind that I am by no means a high ranking player. I haven't played long, but I just wanted to share a point of view from someone who just recently tried to jump into a new game. I have just recently begun ranked, but the problem I want to address is solo queue normal.

I've never seen a worse community for an online game. Literally EVERY TEAM I've solo queued with to date has had 1-3 "toxic" players. I'm talking about those guys that get out-called (which is a system I hate, btw) on their role, wait for a second (maybe complain or whatnot) and then just pick and instalock. Everyone knows their team will lose when this happens.

Here's the first thing I believe people will use to try to argue against that last statement: You don't always have to follow the meta, I've seen other team comps work.
My counter-argument: It doesn't matter what your team comp is at that point, nearly your whole team will have a bad attitude at the start of the game. Someone will make a mistake, and everyone will just rage at that person, if not everyone, and the rest of the game is completely lost, all before the game ever started. Don't get me wrong, I've seen different things work as well, but it's usually a pre-made that all or most know each other and work well together. The problem I want to address is the lack of communication/willingness to work together. Simply put, nothing is being done to help people work together. Or even want to.

I love the idea behind this game. I think most of it is very well done. The honor system seemed to be an attempt at rewarding players for not being complete *******s, but it isnt enough. No one cares about being "honored" enough to be a decent and pleasant individual to play with. Ultimately, its sad that people need motivation to accomplish that, but it's true. The nature of the community I've been exposed to is just too selfish for a team-reliant game.

I'd love to hear thoughts and ideas on how to keep people positive! What can I do as a player to avoid these problems? (I already fill roles as best as I am able)


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Deadlyroot

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03-24-2013

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Wtf Nameless

Senior Member

03-24-2013

sadly, thats normal queue for you.

the only way to avoid that is to get to tier 1-3 of a division in ranked, or play with friends.

or play aram, where it doesn't matter


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InertBlowfish

Senior Member

03-24-2013

People like deadlyroot need insta forum suspension for posting **** like that.


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