Laning with Kha'Zix?

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21kclimer

Senior Member

03-23-2013

Iv seen many people mid and top lane with Kha'Zix, but every time I try to, I end up feeding. I find I can't get any CS, and the enemy champ controls me the entire laning phase.

However, whenever I jungle, I end up doing very well as Kha'Zix, and sometimes carrying the team. This was the only one in my match history.

Any tips, build advice, etc on laning with Zix?


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21kclimer

Senior Member

03-23-2013

bump


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BallSagett

Senior Member

03-23-2013

go get a tear soon as u can and farm/harass with W.....max it


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Zenophoric

Junior Member

03-23-2013

Listen to that guy and lose lane. (Don't rush a tear/chalice... You're not nidalee.)

I play Kha mid, top and jungle very frequently. I believe he is super strong laning, if not OP. How it usually goes for me is either, get countered/camped or carry game.

To win with kha there are complete different play styles for mid vs top and for the different types of match-ups. He's very versatile. But that can be hurtful for someone who is use to his jungle and tries to apply the same concepts to laning.

Give a lane / matchup example and I'll try to help.


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Daggrah

Junior Member

03-23-2013

I'm interested in learning Kha, as well. Can you give some advice for laning vs Karthus, Lux, and Akali?


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xpl0de88

Member

03-24-2013

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Originally Posted by Zenophoric View Post
Listen to that guy and lose lane. (Don't rush a tear/chalice... You're not nidalee.)

I play Kha mid, top and jungle very frequently. I believe he is super strong laning, if not OP. How it usually goes for me is either, get countered/camped or carry game.

To win with kha there are complete different play styles for mid vs top and for the different types of match-ups. He's very versatile. But that can be hurtful for someone who is use to his jungle and tries to apply the same concepts to laning.

Give a lane / matchup example and I'll try to help.

its really a prefference when it comes down to tear. that prefference being wether or not u like to spam ur w all game long or not. i start the mana regen thing 4 hp and mana pots (most of the time depending on enemy champ). good times


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Zenophoric

Junior Member

03-24-2013

Getting a tear kinda limits you to W spam though, because you will lack stats to all in.

Spamming W is fine till about lvl 7, but after lvl 7 you should be roaming a lot, only going back to lane to get minions. While roaming, damage stats will help far more then some mana to spam w with.
Plus, even if you dont get a tear in lane, you should be-able to hit them with 2-3 w's no problem, then dive them. You wont be outa mana, and you'll have just gotten a kill thanks to all your damage.

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Originally Posted by Daggrah View Post
I'm interested in learning Kha, as well. Can you give some advice for laning vs Karthus, Lux, and Akali?
Akali ---------
Akali is some-what your counter past level 6, she needs to be absolutely shut down early. Take 9 pots 1 pward going into that lane, focus on denying her farm. It's even more important then getting yourself farm. Try to get her to use her shroud early (be scary), when she does w into it for some free dmg. Now that her w is on CD, all in her. You have more sustained damage then she does pre-6. Use bushes to re-cycle your passive. Ask jungler to come up and be scary, he doesn't even have to set up the kill, just put her behind so you can zone her. Next time she tries to farm/engage with shroud plop down pinkw and go to town on her 0 escape kit. (make sure you have some MS advantage.)

After 6 leave lane, focus on out-roaming/snowballing her. Try to hit a lane before she gets there without losing too much health. This will generally keep the akali from engaging. (She likes when the numbers advantage is on her side so she doesn't have to worry about getting completely CC'd / focused.)

Karthus ---- (Bring mana/5 seals and the mana/5 masteries.)
Get W first, poke him early, his lvl 1-3 damage sucks and yours doesn't.
Try not to push lane under his tower. When lane is even feel free to leap him and take half his health in a e,w,q,aa combo.
Easy lane, consider banshees if he is getting too much CS.

Lux -----
Play passive till she wastes e or q, jump her. repeat. Don't jump after lvl 6 unless she already used q.
If lux plays smart and saves her spells, just farm and roam. You can't win trades when her combo is up.


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pornstarq

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Senior Member

03-24-2013

lol maybe I like to spam my skills too much but without tear, you run oom fairly quickly
Most lanes, its hard to farm without your w because you are a melee champ
You engage on them with your jump and you are very vulnerable to jungle gank
Its very easy for jungler to wait for your jump and gank if they see you aggressive as kha zix
I follow builds of other pro players that excel playing kha zix
Ambition, Alex Ich, etcs.
I doubt that guy that criticize tear first build comes even close to playing at the level these guys do
They usually go tear first, then brutalizer
Get blood thirster
Finish brutalizer and get a defenisve item
Finish tear
When you get manamune with max mana, your added damage is enough to one combo any adc late game and jump out easily
BTW, Xenophoric has 0 ranked games, 0 elo
Pro players >2000 elos
Who do you wanna follow
The guys that play the game so much and tried pretty much every single item combo?
Or the guy with 0 ranked games


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Zenophoric

Junior Member

03-24-2013

I've never oom'd as Kha, and this isn't my main but w/e.

I'm not 2000 elo, and I don't lane against froggen, but I win almost all my kha lanes/games.
Of-course you have to learn how to not be predictable / get baited. Wards help too.

I always play an aggressive lane with kha, just make sure you have an escape plan and all is good. (Don't use your ult to engage unless you're very confident. It makes a great escape.)

And obviously you shouldn't be diving Irelias and Jax's when jungle is off map. I gave tips for laning with Kha, not how to play LoL 101.


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Saffronspider

Junior Member

03-24-2013

Whether or not you play in ranked isn't a good deciding factor of whether to follow someone's advice or not. Ultimatly normals follow about the same rules for match making as ranked, except your ELO is invisible and you get the occasional crazy team of vastly different elo players because friends want to play together, etc.

To discount someone's words just because they either don't have the time to invest in ranked, wish to avoid the problems with it (dealing with ragers/trolls, etc) is rather narrowminded of anyone to say. It is pretty obvious he is familiar with Kha'zix and knows how to play the voidbug well.The OP asked for opinions on how to lane Kha, and Xeno decided to provide with good insights. He even provided reasons why he dislikes rushing a Tear as well as the reasons you should be building other things instead.

He might be unranked, but at least he's providing more indepth information then you have.

Edit: You know how to take care of yourself, Zeno. On a content note, what match-ups do you dislike to play againest the most as Kha'zix when mid and top?


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