This man deserves a pardon... Check it reds (please)

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Flickerei

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03-10-2013

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Here's my thoughts on it. There should NEVER be two games in a case. IN fact I don't think there should ever be less than five in the tribunal. There is not enough information here to warrant a punishment vote IMHO.

Is this person just having a bad day and should be pardoned? I don't know. I do believe the tribunal shouldn't have punished him.
4 games should be a minimum imo, I agree with this, two games aren't a good thing in most cases, this being one of them.


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Ladayen

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03-10-2013

the first game I could even ignore as possible just a series of mistakes. The second game is just flat out trolling, his teammates weren't even that mean at all. Seriously.. he has more deaths then CS and not a single assist even.

I do agree with more games per case though, and I think we will see this in the future. Lyte addressed this previously when making it a two game minimum. He didn't want to give people the idea the tribunal was suddenly much more toxic so hopfully give it a couple months and we'll see a 3 game minimum and then maybe more later on.


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SexyPlanket

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03-10-2013

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4 games should be a minimum imo, I agree with this, two games aren't a good thing in most cases, this being one of them.
I usually go a little easier on those with only 2 games. If they are ultra toxic in them however, they get a punish. This game I saw nothing done blatantly wrong. The day I punish someone for not playing well will be the day I stop doing tribunal.


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Shiister

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03-10-2013

I would punish. Person in the reform card look like they was intentionally trolling and was set on it when the game begun.

Do I think he is a new player? No. New players are usually talkactive and they have little grasp of the rules so they get into flame arguments a lot.

Do I think his teammates drove him to "feed" or afk? No. He intentionally went into the games to ruin them. He wasn't seeking help from his teammates.


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Shelzin

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03-10-2013

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I would punish. Person in the reform card look like they was intentionally trolling and was set on it when the game begun.
While that's a possibility... The proof just isn't there in my opinion.

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Do I think he is a new player? No. New players are usually talkactive and they have little grasp of the rules so they get into flame arguments a lot.
Unless they don't understand English.

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Do I think his teammates drove him to "feed" or afk? No. He intentionally went into the games to ruin them. He wasn't seeking help from his teammates.
Yeah... Well... I like to have more than gut feeling.


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Safearra

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03-10-2013

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I would punish. Person in the reform card look like they was intentionally trolling and was set on it when the game begun.

Do I think he is a new player? No. New players are usually talkactive and they have little grasp of the rules so they get into flame arguments a lot.

Do I think his teammates drove him to "feed" or afk? No. He intentionally went into the games to ruin them. He wasn't seeking help from his teammates.
hey look something we agree on


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Shiister

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03-10-2013

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While that's a possibility... The proof just isn't there in my opinion.
Well, new players usually are very cautious when it come to fighting. A score such as 1/10/5 I can understand, but 0/12/4 and 0/15/0 with little CS and leaving or AFKing are supicious. Not to mention these not the only 2 cases which are shown to us.


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Unless they don't understand English.
Not to sound racisit or anything, but some non-English players know words like "noob" and curse words before helpful words.


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Yeah... Well... I like to have more than gut feeling.
Well I'm not basing this off a gut-feeling, just what I see or lack lol.


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LittleDi

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03-10-2013

Mute trolling is still trolling. Everyone in game 1 agreed on it. 2 agreed on it in game 2. What I find severely weird is the COMPLETE AND TOTAL LACK OF ENEMY CHAT.


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SexyPlanket

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03-10-2013

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Mute trolling is still trolling. Everyone in game 1 agreed on it. 2 agreed on it in game 2. What I find severely weird is the COMPLETE AND TOTAL LACK OF ENEMY CHAT.
You know I didn't notice that until just now.... ya that is weird, what is up with that? This case is very strange, and from what I see you guys are speculating. I generally don't speculate, I go on the hard facts presented before me, after all this is someone's account I don't want to punish on speculation. Just so you guys know "Almost No One" pardoned this guy, really confusing to me... But everyone who does the tribunal is different I guess. I just sincerely don't believe this guy (whoever he is) deserves punishment of any kind.


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Shiister

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03-10-2013

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You know I didn't notice that until just now.... ya that is weird, what is up with that? This case is very strange, and from what I see you guys are speculating. I generally don't speculate, I go on the hard facts presented before me, after all this is someone's account I don't want to punish on speculation. Just so you guys know "Very Few" pardoned this guy, really confusing to me... But everyone who does the tribunal is different I guess. I just sincerely don't believe this guy (whoever he is) deserves punishment of any kind.
You are speculating also. You assuming he is a bad player and not intentionally feeding.

Everyone interpret this case differently, just how Tribunal works.


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