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A simple fix to Akali! Really, just one small change.

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0xiDIzE

Member

03-10-2013

All very true. And probably the simplest fix for Akali without over/under nerfing her. I'd still play her with this change.

Unlike Singed, who they're overdoing it with.


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BeelzeBuff

Senior Member

03-10-2013

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Don't adjust any of her numbers. Don't change her overall kit. Just change one aspect of her play, a simple aspect. An aspect that actually makes sense in the context of the other units that share a similar "feature".

Her stealth....

It breaks or is delayed if she takes damage, going into it, or already in it, just like Twitch and Eve. The moment she steps out of the shroud, she is visible. Not this 0.5 second delay **** that lets her step out and be 300 units away before she is seen.

Not only is her current stealth mechanic out of sync with the other assassin champions, but it doesn't actually require skill to use, like the others. At least with Eve and Twitch you have to be mindful of your steps, timing of use, and overall placement. Not with Akali, drop a shrod and troll face. Did that Akali player make a mistake and step out of shroud? Doesn't matter, still stealth!

Akali's stealth is broken, out of sync with the others, and simply too damn easy to use. She is a super high burst assassin, and should be, but her big play should require some sort of thinking and skill. It doesn't require any of that right now.

Her damage is fine, her mobility, psssh, fine. The instant stealth that can't be broken, is too much.

inb4: Pink, Oracles, blah blah blah. It isn't about that, it is about a mechanic of a champion that doesn't fit.


GODDAMNIT I HATE THAT SO MUCH

zzz apparently the shroud "checks" if she's there at the start of every second or something, so a well timed escape can give you a whole second of stealth without being in the shroud.


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Waschbar

Senior Member

03-10-2013

Oh and um, also. Her shroud breaking would make that skill useless. there'd be no point in casting it since any AoE-Skillshot would break it. Its a shroud that she can only use every 15 or so seconds when she places it in ONE AREA. Twitch or Eve have this whole moving stealth thing. Akali picks a spot. There's WAY MORE counterplay to her mechanic than thier is to an Eve or Twitch's stealth.


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Wrenchman

03-10-2013

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Um, its not 300 units >.> its 50-75 at most. Hyperbole much?


Unless they Flash, or Ghost.....

I was going for an average, remember, 300 units is less than the distance of Flash. Now factor in move speed, do they have furor? Did someone pop a Rev?

It isn't hard for an Akali to hit 300 units out of stealth before being seen.


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Blaine Tog

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03-10-2013

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Oh and um, also. Her shroud breaking would make that skill useless. there'd be no point in casting it since any AoE-Skillshot would break it. Its a shroud that she can only use every 15 or so seconds when she places it in ONE AREA. Twitch or Eve have this whole moving stealth thing. Akali picks a spot. There's WAY MORE counterplay to her mechanic than thier is to an Eve or Twitch's stealth.
This.

The change you're suggesting would make it totally nonfunctional.


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Awaen

Senior Member

03-10-2013

The ONLY change I'd want to see would be to remove the 'stealth after leaving shroud' grace period. Everything else is fine, since you KNOW she's stuck in that shroud. Every other assassin's stealth lets them flee in any direction they want.


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Wrenchman

03-10-2013

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Oh and um, also. Her shroud breaking would make that skill useless. there'd be no point in casting it since any AoE-Skillshot would break it. Its a shroud that she can only use every 15 or so seconds when she places it in ONE AREA. Twitch or Eve have this whole moving stealth thing. Akali picks a spot. There's WAY MORE counterplay to her mechanic than thier is to an Eve or Twitch's stealth.


No, it wouldn't make her stealth useless. It would force people to learn to use it, and adjust to having to think about actually using it.

Do you know why her shroud is currently round? Let me help you with that....


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Waschbar

Senior Member

03-10-2013

I wouldn't even include Eve's stealth in the discussion anyway since its extremely different than any other stealth mechanic in the game.

Akali's shroud is more akin to Teemo's than anything.

Nice .gif use.

Akali throws down W. What do you do? Disengage. Dummy.

450-500ish unit area where she cant be seen. over 150,000 units where she can be


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Wrenchman

03-10-2013

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I wouldn't even include Eve's stealth in the discussion anyway since its extremely different than any other stealth mechanic in the game.

Akali's shroud is more akin to Teemo's than anything.


I would like to introduce you to pre-rework Eve and Twitch.


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john

Senior Member

03-10-2013

lol if i posted this thread it would be downvoted to hell