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**EloSatan**:

People like to say that there is no such thing as Elo Hell.

They say because if you never leave games, never disconnect, you have like, a 55% higher chance of being on the team that doesn't get the leaver afk.

Granted. That's a great argument.

Now here is mine.

If there is a 1% possibility, there is a 99% possibility.

All of these possibilities can exist, so in fact, they do exist.

Just because statistically, it SHOULD BE 55%, that doesn't mean that it only being 5% DOESN'T HAPPEN.

Statistically, no one should win the lottery, because on the individual basis, the chance is so small. But when you look at it from the whole group of people playing,

with 42 million people buying lottery tickets with a 1 in 100 million chance, someone will win the lottery, statistically, about once every 2 weeks.

This logic applies to ELOHell.

Just because on each individual basis, the percentage should be around 55% of your not getting the feeder, and your win percentage should ultimately fall around 50% based on match making,

There will be those few who just have bad luck.

If the possibility exists, then it IS HAPPENING.

Some people ARE getting the short straw repeatedly.

Some people ARE getting the team with the feeder, with the AFK, the whiney ****** bags OVER AND OVER.

Not as many as most people claim. Alot of them are just bad and deserve to be where they are.

But statistically, if you flip a coin 100 times in a row, it IS possible for it to never come up heads. Highly unlikely, but it IS POSSIBLE.

Since there are millions of people playing this game, It has to be expected that there are at least THOUSANDS of people who just have bad luck.

TL:DR

Elo Hell Exists

-The guy who can make the claim best.

*update 1* Still no sound 100% complete refuting of the arguement. Claim of EloHell's Existence remains, Highly accepted that the number of people who are held back by bad luck is a small number in the thousands, in comparison to the millions who play this game daily.

Say you play 100 games. And get the 45% short end of the stick in every single one of them. Let's calculate that, shall we?

45% (or .45)

raised to the 100th power (100 games)

equals...? 2.09*10^-35

Also known as .0000000000000000000000000000000000209

But that's still a chance right? and if there's a chance then it will happen right?

Consider the lottery. By your numbers, that's a .000000001 chance of winning played by 42000000 people. That equals a .42 chance of SOMEONE winning each play.

.0000000000000000000000000000000000209 * (assume everyone EVERYWHERE plays LoL) 7000000000 ==

*drumroll*

1.4*10^-25

That's the chance that someone gets only 100 short ends of the stick.

Sorry, math says you're wrong.