So, about that Karma leak...

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Larias

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03-15-2013

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This, this and this. So much better compared to Riot's version.
Better doesn't mean balanced, unfortunately.


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Zerglinator

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03-15-2013

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Better doesn't mean balanced, unfortunately.
Karma was weak for years. Based on her name, she should be OP for years.


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HarryOrunitia

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03-15-2013

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Better doesn't mean balanced, unfortunately.
But it's probably "balanceable" :P
Some things like armor and mr on the shield would have to go, and other things like the heal ratios would have to be pretty low, but it doesn't sound like something completely broken.


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nukular power

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03-15-2013

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-speed up that does very high dmg and slow, combined with shield makes your melee diver a very scary person that can catch, slow, and drop even more dmg into their own burst.
The loss of this is what makes me totally against this rework. As a frequent Karma player, my favorite facet of her playstyle is just how supportive she is in teamfights. I feel she can have far more impact on that phase of the game than most AP mids, actually. The megashield + superspeed (from a mantra'd W) on a Darius or whatever is amazing, especially if they are smart enough to maneuver enemies into the tether damage. This kit, while interesting, feels like it would have been a much better fit on a new champion entirely.

I don't see why every champion has to be considered viable by the majority of LoL forum goers. There is plenty of room for "niche" champions, and I am very disappointed that Karma is basically being turned into a generic AP caster just so we can tick her off of the "underplayed" list.


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Venok09

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03-15-2013

I am both excited for her new set of tools but slightly sadden of the loss of her original passive that is like an AP version of Olaf's.


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Dobyk

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03-15-2013

Wow, this new kit is OP, expect an armada of nerfs. She will be a pretty badass mid pick, but I love the fact she has more utility than Lux, Morgana AND Ori... And I think she will be a very, very viable support... I mean, haste+shield, root, AoE slow... That's quite a lot of utility, perfect for support. Oh, not to forget that.... Mantra + E = AoE damage, AoE haste, AoE shields for allies, OP. This is truly amazing, thank you Riot.


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Larias

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But it's probably "balanceable" :P
Some things like armor and mr on the shield would have to go, and other things like the heal ratios would have to be pretty low, but it doesn't sound like something completely broken.
So basically 2 of the 4 things added in would have to go :P


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FrozenMistninja

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03-15-2013

This is gonna hurt
I Hope you brought some medication
I'm seething with calmness
How dare you interrupt my meditation
Im Self Sustaining my inner flame burns bright
They call me Karma because I control your quality of life
Think no one plays me?
My popularity has no equal
I got the most fans in the whole league and they're all lethal
So bring your whole clan and your family and we'll brawl people
I kill Noxians from a sound sleep cause' they're all feeble
It may be harsh, but we're past negotiation
I was prepared to tolerate everything short of a full invasion
Killed most of my village and I'm here to balance the equation
Not a Natural warrior but you forced me to defend my nation
And on occasion I might even enjoy it a bit
cause no matter what you do we'll always have our spirit
My strength lies in my brethren and I'm happy to lead'em
Cause you can take our lives, but you can never take our freedom
Not here to weather the storms I'm here to calm them
And if your team's around you should alarm them
Our victory is assured I got a plan
I'm farmed up and it's about to hit the fan
My power's a secret, quiet agent of aggression
You can call me Bond, Spirit Bond 007
I can play multiple lanes so I use my discretion
but no matter where I end up you end up in depression
cause you can try to kill me, but failure is assured
the more health I lose, the more my shield endures
and if you try to dive me, well I'll just wave politely
Use a mantra charge, and live everytime while your death is likely
That was embarassing, I bet your team reports you
It looked pretty intentional, it was so easy to thwart you
I know you rarely see me but you could look me up
You play like you've got the brain capacity of a dixie cup
I'm so enlightened I'm pretty sure I flouresce
You need to borrow some gold? Seems I have an excess
Now that I'm fed there's absolutely no stress
I can't believe how easy it was to destroy you in this ridiculous dress
Not here to weather the storms I'm here to calm them
And if your team's around you should alarm them
Our victory is assured I got a plan
I'm farmed up and it's about to hit the fan

If you want riot To Keep the FANS! In some form or another, taunt, joke, recall, dance, revival then please keep posting. Riot doesnt understand that the FANS she holds are a symbol of all of the old Karma Players! Because we are The FANS. If you know the song lyrics by badministrator called hit the fan posted above, then you are in the cult of Karma DieHards! Keep the fans in some form Riot, we supported what many called an unfinished champion for 2 years, so please make this sacrifice for us and show us you support the minority of us as well!


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Dunkrig

Junior Member

03-15-2013

YES!! Favorite support champ gets a much deserved re-work. Been anticipating it since the day I read that leak in summer Way to go Riotgames.


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Moldy Sandvich

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03-15-2013

Do AA's/abilites that hit minions/monsters/summoned units (voidling, tibbers, etc.) reduce the cooldown on Mantra?