Recommendation on Picking lanes before Queue/Please Fix!!

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Ajdin T560

Junior Member

03-04-2013

I have made a suggestion to support section on Fixing what happens to be one of the biggest issues in League of legends currently which is Confusion, Trolling, raging and etc in the Selecting your lane in Queue. You know how annoying this can be especially when playing single ranked without a clan so nobody knows what to do and before you know it the game starts, nobody wants to dodge and therefor most of the time the game is lost. So my recommendation to Support was as follows....

Subj: I'd like to give you guys a recommendation that could potentially fix a big issue in League of Legends

Ajdin
Mar 03 09:44

I think that there is a lot of players out there that are just getting sick and tired of people raging and trolling when it comes to not picking the correct lanes in the Queue. You know how it is someone either doesn't have the correct rune set up, don't have the appropriate champion or just because someone wants their way which puts the rest of the team at a disadvantage which either makes someone quit or the match is lost. Well what if League of legends created a system where everyone chose their lanes before the queue when you start the match there should be an option that states what lanes you should choose including jungle or 2 tops. This would eliminate most of the problem, granted i know when it comes to ranked some champions wil get banned but this would definitely lower the percentage of these issues and the process would be faster too. I've been a player now with League of Legends for a while now and i love the game and every improvement you guys have made went towards the good direction i believe that this truly would a good decision so if at least your team can think about it. Thanks

---Response from team member.

Greetings Ajdin,

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll pass this to the development team working on that part of the PVP.net client. We do have quite a few improvements we'd like to implement, and we're hiring new engineers and developers to deal with them all.

In the meantime, if you haven't already I suggest posting ideas like these on the forums. The developers are always checking for ideas, and you can get support and constructive feedback from your fellow summoners. We have adjusted priorities in the past based on community feedback!


The League of Legends forums:
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/

Warmest Regards,
Cooky Muncher
Riot Games Player Support Specialist

My last response to him was......

Ajdin

Thank you very much, i would like to emphisize how much of a problem this is for serious players. I have actually conducted a survey as a player on LOL and most of the players agree with me on this. We need to figure out a way to fix this issue, i know couple of people that have quit playing LOL do to this reason. I would like it if this recommendation was taken more seriously and prioritized more than some other stuff going on right now. Thanks again....

March 04, 2013 14:03

---- I did exactly what he told me which is to post this on forums, players/summoners we need to push this so we as players can enjoy our games and not worry about this BSing before the game even starts. Please make the same recommendation and lets push for this change so that way we can enjoy our games a lil more.... Thanks guys!


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huclso123

Member

03-04-2013

Completely agree


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LogicalTautology

Senior Member

03-04-2013

This actually isn't a problem at all for most games in Gold+, and even many Silver games. So no, "serious players" are completely unaffected by this alleged problem.
I also don't believe you have done a thorough survey with a sizable and representative sample. Could you please link me to the published results of the survey?


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Vanitar Agarmael

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03-04-2013

Firstly, This is a really cool idea! Ranked play can be incredibly frustrating because everyone wants to win, but they are unable to do what they are best at.

However, I see some issues that could arise from a system like this. One of the biggest issues that could arise is that of "playing in meta." League of legends is a game built on customization. That's one of the unique parts of the game that people love. While it is a great idea to have a "in meta" queue, another idea might be to allow people to play with queues as they are now.

Maybe have a role queue, and a standard queue?

Another idea very similar to this could be a "team finder" sort of system. Where you could queue up as a specific role to play on a 5 person team, you could pick your role, but not your teammates. These games could still be like solo queue, but you would go into the game together, with predefined roles. This could allow teams to communicate before the game, or simply put them into queue as soon as the team filled up.

Just a few ideas.

I love your initiative!


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Sam Is Whoa

Senior Member

03-04-2013

I would suggest you read the summoners code. If your lazy and wont I will make it easy for you. This is a direct excerpt of the code. This is not my interpretation nor is it debatable. This is direct from Riot.

Rule 1. Paragraph 2.
Being a good team player begins at champion select. Be open minded when considering the needs of your team. If you’re the last one to pick, try to fill a niche in your team that hasn’t already been filled. If everyone’s picked and something stands out as a deficiency in your team composition, try asking for another player to fill the gap, or change roles to embrace that responsibility yourself. Remember, that by taking on a role you don’t normally play, you’ll learn more about unfamiliar champions and increase your own skill level.

The bold part is what really matters. IF YOUR THE LAST ONE TO PICK FILL A NICHE. That does not mean final pick has to be support or something they dont like. it DOES mean that if there is someone who picked champs for mid top and bot, you SHOULD jungle. see the word SHOULD? that means you dont HAVE to pick a jungler. BUT! if your team believes a jungler is what you need and your team suffers from not having one than you are open for being reported and have no recourse. MOST summoners will listen to what ppl say and try to come up with a happy medium. If you are last pick and join queue to say, "anything but jungle PLZ" or "Mid plz, its my best lane" than you might get a better response. you might still have to go top and not mid but thats 1 game it wont happen everytime. We have all been last pick B4. Be civil and the queue will be civil back. Rare occasions are the exception not the rule.


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Sam Is Whoa

Senior Member

03-04-2013

Also. setting something up like that would make queue time EXTREMELY long. that in NO WAY is an idea that would work.

1.Long queue times
2.Allows little to no room for inovation
3.Because of the long queue times ppl would queue up as Jungle or Support for shorter queue times and pick champs for top/mid anyway causing MORE problems.


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TheFakeSit

Member

03-04-2013

You like this until you queue up for ADC and someone else queued up for support and they take AP Shyvana mid. That is why this system will NEVER work.


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Ajdin T560

Junior Member

03-04-2013

Quote:
Originally Posted by LogicalTautology View Post
This actually isn't a problem at all for most games in Gold+, and even many Silver games. So no, "serious players" are completely unaffected by this alleged problem.
I also don't believe you have done a thorough survey with a sizable and representative sample. Could you please link me to the published results of the survey?
When i say Survey i mean i was asking people personally over chat about 90% of them agreed. Also i don't know why you wouldnt agree with this, if they make a system they could make it so its optional, you could still do random but for those that want to chose they would chose which would match them up with other ones that want to chose. It would be awesome. I would mind the wait it would be totaly worth it.


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Ajdin T560

Junior Member

03-04-2013

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vanitar Agarmael View Post
Firstly, This is a really cool idea! Ranked play can be incredibly frustrating because everyone wants to win, but they are unable to do what they are best at.

However, I see some issues that could arise from a system like this. One of the biggest issues that could arise is that of "playing in meta." League of legends is a game built on customization. That's one of the unique parts of the game that people love. While it is a great idea to have a "in meta" queue, another idea might be to allow people to play with queues as they are now.

Maybe have a role queue, and a standard queue?

Another idea very similar to this could be a "team finder" sort of system. Where you could queue up as a specific role to play on a 5 person team, you could pick your role, but not your teammates. These games could still be like solo queue, but you would go into the game together, with predefined roles. This could allow teams to communicate before the game, or simply put them into queue as soon as the team filled up.

Just a few ideas.

I love your initiative!
Yea it was an idea but they could sit down and create the best plan, looks like they have some smart people out there that could creat a diverse system which would be available for both random as it is now and for those that would like to chose.


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Ajdin T560

Junior Member

03-04-2013

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam Is Whoa View Post
I would suggest you read the summoners code. If your lazy and wont I will make it easy for you. This is a direct excerpt of the code. This is not my interpretation nor is it debatable. This is direct from Riot.

Rule 1. Paragraph 2.
Being a good team player begins at champion select. Be open minded when considering the needs of your team. If youíre the last one to pick, try to fill a niche in your team that hasnít already been filled. If everyoneís picked and something stands out as a deficiency in your team composition, try asking for another player to fill the gap, or change roles to embrace that responsibility yourself. Remember, that by taking on a role you donít normally play, youíll learn more about unfamiliar champions and increase your own skill level.

The bold part is what really matters. IF YOUR THE LAST ONE TO PICK FILL A NICHE. That does not mean final pick has to be support or something they dont like. it DOES mean that if there is someone who picked champs for mid top and bot, you SHOULD jungle. see the word SHOULD? that means you dont HAVE to pick a jungler. BUT! if your team believes a jungler is what you need and your team suffers from not having one than you are open for being reported and have no recourse. MOST summoners will listen to what ppl say and try to come up with a happy medium. If you are last pick and join queue to say, "anything but jungle PLZ" or "Mid plz, its my best lane" than you might get a better response. you might still have to go top and not mid but thats 1 game it wont happen everytime. We have all been last pick B4. Be civil and the queue will be civil back. Rare occasions are the exception not the rule.
I understand the codes and how things currently work but things can be changed. I'm asking them to make a change and maybe keep the current way too. Have it be optional it would be awesome, i'm tired of people trolling and still keep chosing a lane even though they didn't ask for it first, nobody wants to dodge due to the time being lost...