Darius shouldn't be nerfed

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trex5005

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02-20-2013

Without the ult cooldown reset, which is what makes darius darius, he's just going to be weaker garen. Noxian Guillotine needs stacks to do good damage anyway. Its not fair that people who can't counter him, and scream op on GD get to nerf him into oblivion.
Edit: Downvoted by nubs who can't beat him


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Hungarth

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02-20-2013

The only thing the nerf really does is helps prevent you from getting a kill every time your lane opponent comes back to the lane.


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Punish This Hole

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02-20-2013

He was never OP just really annoying...nobody likes annoying ppl


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trex5005

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02-20-2013

they increased the cooldown length too, it was more than the 12 second thing


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trex5005

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02-20-2013

Honestly, he should just stay the same. Champs like Kat have their ult up every 40 seconds and are just as annoying to deal with


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Catopuma

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02-20-2013

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they increased the cooldown length too, it was more than the 12 second thing
At Max Level, the Ult cooldown is still at 80. As it always was. He's just a lot less snow-bally now. He's still the same team-fight threat he always was. 12 seconds is a lot of time for him to get dunks in.

He just can't snowball as hard and lane-bully like before. It was ridiculous that he could kill his opponent, and have his Ult back up when the opposing Top returned.
This was exactly the same reason they nerfed Riven's Ult cooldown at early levels, to make them less snow-bally.


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DUDE BRO

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02-20-2013

The only problem is that the ult doesn't go on cooldown until 12 seconds after a kill, essentially adding an additional 12 seconds onto the ult (which already had 20 seconds tacked on).


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trex5005

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02-20-2013

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At Max Level, the Ult cooldown is still at 80. As it always was. He's just a lot less snow-bally now. He's still the same team-fight threat he always was. 12 seconds is a lot of time for him to get dunks in.

He just can't snowball as hard and lane-bully like before. It was ridiculous that he could kill his opponent, and have his Ult back up when the opposing Top returned.
This was exactly the same reason they nerfed Riven's Ult cooldown at early levels, to make them less snow-bally.
The problem I have is he can only do that against people who make mistakes against him. Against a strong opponent he can't snowball quickly. He's considered useless in high level play, and this nerf makes that much worse


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ScrubbingitOut

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02-20-2013

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At Max Level, the Ult cooldown is still at 80. As it always was. He's just a lot less snow-bally now. He's still the same team-fight threat he always was. 12 seconds is a lot of time for him to get dunks in.

He just can't snowball as hard and lane-bully like before. It was ridiculous that he could kill his opponent, and have his Ult back up when the opposing Top returned.
This was exactly the same reason they nerfed Riven's Ult cooldown at early levels, to make them less snow-bally.
lol show me a teamfight where he doesnt get kited to death before he even reached the target to grab.
the nerf is essentially punishing him on skirmishes which is what he's good at, and tbh his team fighting dmg wasnt even that high unless u let him get 5 stacks for a good amount time his ult was just a finisher that nukes u for around 300-400 true dmg which by the time he ults u ur probably below half health , he's basically just another pubstomper thats getting nerfed because of GD's qq like tryndamere...
whats even funnier is that QQs about him were gone around the start of season 3...


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QtX

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02-20-2013

Higher level play literally have him built as a tank and just survive in team fights until people are low enough for him to dunk.. .it's not going to change much there.

Problem is... riot has been using this "don't want the ult to be up when someone you killed returns to lane" reason for some champs having long cooldowns yet Darius was immune to that. it only hurts his laning a bit nothing more.