Does kayle beat a jax bot lane?

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Wolf Un1t

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02-19-2013

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FOODFOOD

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02-19-2013

Depends on the Kayle and the Jax. Early game, Kayle will beat Jax. Late game, it'll come down to how far behind/ahead one is, whether the Kayle built AD or AP, and individual skill.

The rule of thumb is, if Kayle can evade the Jax stun or Ult right as he does it, she should win. If not, it'll probably go to Jax. Late game, that is.


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konfetarius

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02-19-2013

Don't see it. For the purposes of this match up, Jax has Kayle's ult at like 1/5th the cooldown. And every time Jax's ult is up, it's a free kill for him if she is anywhere away from her tower.

She should be able to stalemate with an AP build by sitting on tower for some time, though. But late game? She ain't got the tankiness for it.


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NavyGothic

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02-19-2013

As someone who mains Kayle bot... no. Jax wins this matchup heavily if he's competent.

Early game - Leap > Hit > Stun combo is very difficult to avoid. Jax leap significantly outranges Kayle's Q and E; you cannot kite him, and being close enough to kill minions puts you at risk. Once he's on you, you have to either W and run (eg. Jax wins the damage trade) or try to fight (eg. Jax kills you).

Mid / late game - Jax and Kayle both scale about equally in damage, so the matchup becomes a little closer over time. If you have your ulti and Jax does not, you have a good chance to win a duel. Still in Jax's favour, but at worst you can usually just tower camp; it's not like Kayle will ever lose a tower to minion pushing.

Of course that's if you're reasonably close on gold. If he gets a significant lead by pushing you out early, you're never going to catch up.


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Quincunx

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02-19-2013

As another Kayle bot main who has played (and won) both sides of the Kayle vs Jax matchup, I'd say it is a skill matchup that leans slightly in Jax's favor. Kayle has good poke and disengage, and Jax has better all-in potential. Jax basically automatically wins fights vs Kayle if he has exhaust up, but otherwise it gets interesting, with all the kiting Kayle can do and all of the anti-kiting Jax can do.

If you're Jax, abuse fog of war and speed shrines. If you're Kayle, wait for Jax to make a mistake and poke him safely when you can. It's a fun and explosive matchup.

Also, Kayle can totally kite Jax early game. Q + W away from him if he jumps on you, and when he turns to leave (while being attacked by your minions) turn back on him and start autoattacking with E. You'll win most trades that way (largely because minions are op). Break LoS with him or run away if he charges a stun in the middle of the lane.


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AK47WOLF

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02-19-2013

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Originally Posted by FOODFOOD View Post
Depends on the Kayle and the Jax. Early game, Kayle will beat Jax. Late game, it'll come down to how far behind/ahead one is, whether the Kayle built AD or AP, and individual skill.
There is no "behind or ahead" in Dominion. There are only extreme exceptions to this, like one person having 20 kills and the other 0.


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konfetarius

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02-19-2013

There is, and there is especially bot lane. You can miss out on 1k+ worth of gold if you die at a wrong time because minions get burned on a tower; and a level disadvantage from 2-3 deaths can be devastating in close match ups.


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wehadwar

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03-30-2013

jax would win his w then q then stun kayle ult then kayle dies fast after a few auto-attacks and if jax builds right then he would win or else kayle would win.


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wehadwar

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03-30-2013

jax can tower dive very fast if his abilitys are up.


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Wolf Un1t

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03-30-2013

Why did someone necro my thread. I made this before kayle got damage amplification removed on her Q, and was curious to know who would win bot lane


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