Ban Kassadin/Jayce from Dominion

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General Quackers

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02-17-2013

They're broken on that map and short of running their kits through the paper shredder, there's not a whole lot of options for making them more manageable.

Or, you know, figure out a way to make queuing for a draft game take less than an hour.


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ZallKlos

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02-17-2013

Then realize that playing OP doesn't substitute for skills.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y22...psbc4404f4.jpg


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Malah

Senior Member

02-17-2013

You're going to be posting that screenshot for weeks, aren't you?

The Trinity Jayce is still giving me a twitch.


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HaIfhearted

Senior Member

02-17-2013

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You're going to be posting that screenshot for weeks, aren't you?

The Trinity Jayce is still giving me a twitch.
At least Trinity Jayce isn't as bad as Lichbane Kass >_>
Sheen/Mallet Kha'zix with no LW is pretty bad, too.

Dear God that screen makes me cringe.


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AgaresOaks

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02-17-2013

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Originally Posted by ZallKlos View Post
Then realize that playing OP doesn't substitute for skills.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y22...psbc4404f4.jpg
You have all missed the bigger OP in that picture. When you see it, you will lament at how bad you are. (or if you are good, you will immediately understand what is happening in the screenshot)

Hint to everyone else: you're missing the part you just assume, because, well, you lose if you don't lol.


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DiscworldDeath

Senior Member

02-17-2013

That screenshot, to be blunt, shows what is also said about SR - until you get to the highest skill levels, how good you are with a champion is much more important than how powerful a champion is.

Team comp (not all magical damage, have some CC, etc.) is still important, but counter-picks and OP picks matter a lot less than how good you are with a champion, especially when players can't be trusted to play most champions, or roles, at an acceptable level (I still wouldn't trust myself to play ADCs on Dominion).


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Torkable

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02-17-2013

I'd rather original duck have his posting privileges removed.


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FDru

Senior Member

02-17-2013

Don't worry I'm sure Riot will nerf their Es by 10 mana and then it'll be K.


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KaWraith

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02-18-2013

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Originally Posted by ZallKlos View Post
Then realize that playing OP doesn't substitute for skills.
Playing OP doesn't substitute for having no skills, but it does let you win easily against equally skilled opponents, and your elo gets inflated until you are fighting people who are much much better than you just to break even with the advantage a broken champ kit gives you.


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Atahl

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02-18-2013

They don't need to ban Kass and Jayce.

They need to give them map-specific spells, that fit their theme and flavor, but are not broken.

An example, would be to make Kassadin's ulti have charges like teemo's mushrooms in dom. Maybe make it hit a little harder to compensate, and give it two max charges. Done. He's now serverely crippled and only on Dom.

You can do this to any number of champs who are OP. It's a bit of work but it's absolutely required. As you said, you either run the kits through a paper shredder, or they're gonna be hopelessly broken no matter what you do.


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