Taking on Vilemaw

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Demacry

Senior Member

02-17-2013

A troll thread got me wondering what were the fastest ways to take on Vilemaw as early as possible. I plan to do some extensive testing and I'll post the results here. I'm going to try and get a complete tier list in place for the best champions for taking on an early Vilemaw solo.

For the purposes of the tests the only farm that I take are the friendly jungle creeps and my opponents' wolves as these are the most consistent results shared by test games and real games. Ideally I would like to find builds for the champions that can be accomplished by only farming friendly jungle camps.

The tier listings won't be complete until I've personally tested all the viable champions. They will be ranked based on the earliest possible time that they can solo Vilemaw as well as how long it takes them to kill him.

I would greatly appreciate any support from the forums, be it runes/masteries setups, potential champions or itemization suggestions.

TIER 1__(10:00 - 11:00)

NAME/LEVEL/EARLIEST TIME/CLEAR TIME/BUILD

1. Jax - 9 - 10:00 - 20 seconds - Boots, Specteral Lantern, Sheen, Long Sword, Health Pot
2. Fiddlesticks - 8 - 10:00 - 40 seconds - Boots, Hextech Revolver, Amplifying Tome, Ruby Crystal
_______(I strongly suggest waiting till you're level 9 and you finish Haunting Guise for more of a guarantee)

TIER 2__(11:00 - 12:00)

1. Shyvana - 11 - 11:30 - 18 seconds - Boots, Specteral Lantern, Wit's End, Long Sword, Health Pot


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Demacry

Senior Member

02-17-2013

I'm saving this post and the next one for reporting on the tests and methods I use with each of the champions.


FIDDLESTICKS

Test 1: I started the test with 21/9/0 masteries, Mag Pen Reds/Armor Yellows/Flat Ap Blues + Quints, Exhaust/Flash

This guy's clear time is really, really slow. At 10 minutes I only had about 50 cs, was level 7 (almost 8). Something to keep in mind is to be standing right next to Vilemaw when you start to drain him or he'll pull you and just crush you while you wait for your cooldown to reset. I had Sorc Shoes/Haunting Guise/Amplifying Tome and it was close but I only got him to 30% health before he killed me. Even when I ulted into him with the same items I only got him to 20% bbefore dieing. I went back to farming, got level 9 and made my Tome into a Hextech Revolver. I went back and killed Vile easily, never dropping below half health.

Test 2: Using the same setup as before I did my best to get as high a level as I could by 10 minutes. At 10 I was level 8 with about 57 cs and I had Sorc Shoes/Hextech Revolver/Amplifying Tome/Ruby Crystal. It seems the Revolver was the trick that did it and I barely ended up beating Vilemaw. If you have an ally helping you just a little bit, or who tanks one or two hits you should be able to beat him easily. Alone thought Fid has one of the slowest clear times; it took me about 35-40 seconds to solo Vile. Also I ran the test a few times, your success depends on if Vile straight attacks you a lot or tries to hit you with his AoE slam. If he is just aa'ing you then you're screwed but if he does his slam it gives you time to heal between attacks. If you can get to level 9 though you can solo Vile easily, though it is still a slow clear time.

JAX

Test 1: On initial test with Jax, 21/9/0 masteries, AD Reds/Armor Yellows+Quints/Mag Resist Blues, Smite/Exhaust

Jax starting clear speed is a bit on the slow side but quickly picks up by the time he is level 4. At 10 minutes I had 70 cs, was level 9 and had Boots/Spec Lantern/Sheen/Long Sword/1 Health Pot. During the fight with Vilemaw I used the pot and my ult's active but I killed Vilemaw in about 20 seconds and still had a quarter health left.

SHYVANA

Test 1: On initial test with Shyvana, 9/21/0 masteries, AS Reds/Armor Yellows/Mag Resist Blues/AD Quints, Smite/Exhaust

I took farm only from my jungle and after level 4 the enemies' wolves when smite was up. At 10 minutes I had 70 farm and was level 9. I had Boots/Spec Lantern/LifeSteal Scepter/Ruby Crystal/Emblem of Valor/1 Health Pot. By the time I got it to half life (smite included) I was almost dead (health pot already used) and I backed off and continued farming.

At 13 minutes I was level 11 with 100 farm and Boots/Spec Lantrn/LifeSteal Scepter/Aegis of the Legion. At this point I could solo it (with smite) but it was still a narrow victory and a bit luck based on Spec Lanturn's passive.

Test 2:Second test with Shyvana, same Runes/Masteries/Spells

At 10 minutes I had 73 cs and was level 9. I had Bers Grieves, Spec Lantern, Recurve Bow, Long Sword, 1 Health Pot. I still couldn't solo it at 10 minutes with this build by my dps was much higher and I took it down to about 40% health before I had to back off. With help from your top lane ally and this build you should be able to get Vilemaw around 10:00-10:30.

Test 3:Same setup as tests 1 and 2. This time I waited until 11:30 to take on Vilemaw. I was level 11 with 93 cs and had Boots/Spec Lantern/Wit's End/Long Sword/1 Health Pot. It was a narrow victory that relied on the Lantern passive but I did solo Vilemaw. If your top lane ally helped you at all it should be a pretty easy victory.


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Demacry

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02-17-2013

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Doomczar

Junior Member

02-17-2013

This is interesting! Keep it up! I'd bet Fiddle and Yi would be able to relatively fast, and possibly Shaco.


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Demacry

Senior Member

02-17-2013

I have my doubts about Shaco. His boxes insta die to Vile if you arnt tanking for them and I dont think his sustained dps is enough to overcome Vile without some serious itemization. Also if youre playing Shaco right you should be getting a ton of kills from ganks which is difficult if not impossible to reproduce in a testing environment.

Yi, imo, is in a similar boat but I will definitely give these two a shot.


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Atajo

Senior Member

02-17-2013

What about Warwick? Q provides some good heals, and his passive is built for straight AAing targets. I'm not sure if Spectral Lantern + Recurve Bow or BotrK is a better bet, though.


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Halfaddict

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02-18-2013

How about xin zhao?


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Lex Lexington

Junior Member

02-18-2013

AD sion can do it at level 7 with a grez lantern and a zeal with his ult and lifesteal quints. (Wait for vilemaw to get you to half health before pressing R)

Udyr can do it at level 8 with a grez lantern, a zeal, and a chain vest. (Alternate between tiger and turtle)

Nunu can do it at level 7 with a hextech revolver, a doran's ring, and a chain vest. (consume -> run around -> consume -> run around -> repeat)

I've also done it at level 8 with shaco but it's hard and I can't remember the setup.


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02-18-2013

Just pick Ursa Warrior and solo it at level 7.


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Kaimipono

Member

02-19-2013

Awesome thread, thanks for doing the work!
I would love to see some Xin Zhao results and some more info on Lex Lexington's results if you try those.


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