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Taric's change to his armor aura? Thoughts?

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Lanceress

Recruiter

02-15-2013

Just wondering if anyone else noticed the changed to Tarics Shatter Aura where it now grants 10% of his armor as bonus armor to allies instead of a flat amount. In reality after doing calculations this is a nerf but I was just wondering if people have any thoughts on this?

I somewhat agree with this nerf as laning against a taric can be a nuisance as the lane duo gains a bonus scaling of 5 armor every other level approximately but now it just scales off of 10% of his armor. Taric would now need 300 armor to have a Shatter Aura that was as strong as his live counterpart.


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iamriddik

Senior Member

02-15-2013

what does this do to the armor taric himself gets from shatter?


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Swippinfrafes

Senior Member

02-15-2013

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iamriddik:
what does this do to the armor taric himself gets from shatter?

He still gets the flat 10/15/20/25/30 armor for himself, and the aura is 10% of his armor.


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Lanceress

Recruiter

02-15-2013

So at level 5 shatter, he gives his team a bonus of 3 armor just from maxing out shatter with the change to 10% instead of flat amounts (not including other bonuses to armor)


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YellowDog7

Senior Member

02-15-2013

Quote:
Lanceress:
Just wondering if anyone else noticed the changed to Tarics Shatter Aura where it now grants 10% of his armor as bonus armor to allies instead of a flat amount. In reality after doing calculations this is a nerf but I was just wondering if people have any thoughts on this?

I somewhat agree with this nerf as laning against a taric can be a nuisance as the lane duo gains a bonus scaling of 5 armor every other level approximately but now it just scales off of 10% of his armor. Taric would now need 300 armor to have a Shatter Aura that was as strong as his live counterpart.


Keep nerfing supports until it's nothing but Kill Lanes.


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Yohan Leafheart

Senior Member

02-15-2013

From the surrender@20 post

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Shatter ( W ) now grants 10% of Taric's Armor to allies instead of flat 10/15/20/25/30
Shatter ( W ) now also deals damage equal to .3 of Taric's armor. ( Note: Still has an AP ratio guys, calm down . )


compared to live

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Passive: Taric's gemstones increase the Armor of nearby allied champions by 10/15/20/25/30. Taric gains an additional 10/15/20/25/30 Armor for himself.

Active: Taric shatters his armor, dealing 60/105/150/195/240 (+0.6) magic damage to nearby enemies and reducing their Armor by 10/15/20/25/30 for 4 seconds. Taric loses 10/15/20/25/30 Armor while Shatter is on cooldown.


if you check the screenshot here http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-6ZXg26DDKvc/UR3IdsWIBfI/AAAAAAAACBA/v8OauNebTRg/s640/shatter.png you will see a couple of things:

1. The damage when you shatters it has increased;
2. You now lose the bonus completely when you shatter;
3.The nerf to your allies is huge on the latter ranks of the skill. As Lanceress pointed, you need now 300 armor to get to the previous state. At level 4 for example (where you normally get shatter lvl 2),you go from 20 to ~5.6 (unless you already have any defensive items 12.7 from flat armor yellows, 23,7 base, 20 from shatter )

EDIT: Fixed some mistakes


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Pitufito Dell

Senior Member

02-15-2013

The change means that you can max other thing aside from W too. But is kindda overnerfed.


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Lanceress

Recruiter

02-15-2013

I think the appeal of taric was that he had an aura that gave off armor, I find the nerf somewhat hard as aegis/runic bulwark got stats more orientated to deal with magic damage and armor penetration has been on the rise now ever since the changes to how penetration works and cleaver


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Lanceress

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02-15-2013

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Pitufito Dell:
The change means that you can max other thing aside from W too. But is kindda overnerfed.


The problem about upgrading other things is that his Heal cd drop is based on hitting targets even though taric is a support and shouldnt be touching minions and his Dazzle has the same flat stun duration at all levels with only the damage increasing on it.

Like sure Shatter should get a nerf but not this bad, but they should also make his other spells more appealing to upgrade as well. But right now this is not the case. Taric is typically picked for his Armor aura and ranged stun, and in teamfights his decent boost of AD and AP to allies


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Hakobo

Senior Member

02-15-2013

So you mean Taric won't be making Varus the second coming of Jesus anymore?

K coo.


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