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Regarding the new champion's name...

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Elhehir

Senior Member

10-26-2010

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Originally Posted by ByronicHero
LeBlanc is a surname. It doesn't have to agree with her gender because it is a family name.

As an additional point of irony, the French community's only complaint about the name is that they find it too commonplace. Apparently there are quite a few LeBlanc's at large in and around France, many of whom are in fact women.


1. Regarding the surname's gender; you are very correct in saying that it does not have a specific gender. It just sounds more masculine than anything else, or at the very least, not feminine at all.
  • To put it in perspective, LeBlanc is akin to naming a champion Emilia Richardson and naming her merely Richardson.

2. On a less important point, that surname is only used in mainly English-speaking countries... Leblanc is usually the form preferred/more commonly found in France and mainly French-speaking regions.

  • For mainly French-speaking people, take the champion's name and change it to Emilia RichardSon. It can just irk us a tiny weeny bit to see it written that way (albeit it won't matter to those who see it written as LeBlanc such as Ontarians/Lousiana Americans/etc.).

3. The plainness of the name can be attributed to the name which is nothing out of a fantasy/original setting. Also, the main name for most champions of the League is usually their first name. The title is alternative or can follow. I can understand that the name must be determining in the champion's character though, so I give the following suggestions regarding her name.


As a neutral measure that should please both English-speaking and French-speaking players, I would suggest:
  1. naming the upcoming champion simply "Emilia" and keeping whatever surname she currently has.
  2. if the surname must be the main name change it to:
  • "Emilia La Blanche", La Blanche being the game name. La Blanche would be mainly kept in order to follow up the name with a title such as: "Emilia La Blanche, The Deceiver"
  • "Emilia, La Blanche Demoiselle" La Blanche Demoiselle being the game name (already sounds more noble and is consistent with the LoL gaming scheme aka Kassadin, The Voidwalker/Akali, The Fist of Shadow/etc.)

My main suggestion would be the last one: "Emilia, La Blanche Demoiselle".


Positive points:
  • Respects LoL naming scheme
  • resolves the whole gender issue
  • resolves the whole French finds it too common issue/diplomatic solution for the mainly English party and mainly French party
  • words are known enough that they can be kept for "exotic attractiveness" while being understandable/translatable (blanc is known to be white and demoiselle is obviously equivalent to damsel)
  • fits in-character with her being from high-court and being a noble and everything.

Negative points: Might be too "pure" for a stealth caster that looks a bit shadowy. Simply change "Blanche" to whatever feminine adjective that fits the character. I'd recommend:
  1. "La Furtive Demoiselle" - sounds common
  2. "La Sybilline Demoiselle" -sounds too distinguished
  3. "L'Obscure Demoiselle" -I like this one
  4. "L'Insaississable Demoiselle" -"the elusive" I like this one a lot too

Anyway, I hope you'll find a good idea in this mess. Feel free to contact me on Elhehir's email address (this account), if you need any suggestions. I am not a translator but I live in Québec and am quite knowledgeable in French and fully functional in English. I'd be glad to assist you. [/QUOTE]Just stating my opinion (from a native French-speaking point of view) on two points:

Firstly,

I have just read the name of the to-be-released female caster champion.

Emilia LeBlanc

As a normal Québécois, fluent in French, I would like to note that her name ticks me off immensely. I nearly fully trust Riot's crew in terms of champion design and everything but

EVERY SINGLE GAMING COMPANY that comes out with a remotely french~ish name capitalizes some letter right in the middle of said name.

I don't know if I'm the only one that this irritates (only a little bit, fear not :P), but is there a reason why her name is Emilia LeBlanc instead of Leblanc?

Just asking for the reasoning under her naming scheme (maybe LeBlanc is something else in the US? I don't know)

Secondly,
Also... Leblanc just sounds masculine/neutral in French, I would very much suggest to have the "main" champion name to be Emilia instead of Leblanc (just for consistency with the champion's ***(ugh, filter; meant *gender*)... unless I have something wrong and it's A TARP!)

Besides, most champions in the League are also principally named by their first name instead of their last name.


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Gribblez

Senior Member

10-26-2010

Wow really. Get a fricking life. Its an imaginary pixel.


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djpeanutbutter

Senior Member

10-26-2010

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Elhehir:

Also... Leblanc just sounds masculine/neutral in French, I would very much suggest to have the "main" champion name to be Emilia instead of Leblanc (just for consistency with the champion's ***... unless I have something wrong and it's A TARP!)

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Elhehir:

(just for consistency with the champion's ***... unless I have something wrong and it's A TARP!)

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Elhehir:

unless I have something wrong and it's A TARP!)

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Elhehir:

it's A TARP!

It's a tarp.


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Ep1cLeprechaun

Senior Member

10-26-2010

Quote:
Elhehir:
Just stating my opinion (from a native French-speaking point of view) on two points:

Firstly,

I have just read the name of the to-be-released female caster champion.

Emilia LeBlanc

As a normal Québécois, fluent in French, I would like to note that her name ticks me off immensely. I nearly fully trust Riot's crew in terms of champion design and everything but

EVERY SINGLE GAMING COMPANY that comes out with a remotely french~ish name capitalizes some letter right in the middle of said name.

I don't know if I'm the only one that this irritates (only a little bit, fear not :P), but is there a reason why her name is Emilia LeBlanc instead of Leblanc?

Just asking for the reasoning under her naming scheme (maybe LeBlanc is something else in the US? I don't know)

Secondly,
Also... Leblanc just sounds masculine/neutral in French, I would very much suggest to have the "main" champion name to be Emilia instead of Leblanc (just for consistency with the champion's ***... unless I have something wrong and it's A TARP!)

Besides, most champions in the League are also principally named by their first name instead of their last name.


I had no idea that it wasn't common in French. I assumed that LeBlanc was similar to McCoy, my neighbor's last name. But just for you, I'm going to call her, "Em". Shorter than LeBlanc anyway


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Konge

Senior Member

10-26-2010

I am from Ontario and there's a ton of LeBlancs, female and male, i'm even a LeBlanc!


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Corvusa

Senior Member

10-26-2010

As far as I know, Last Names dont depend on Gender?


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Ham summons ham

Senior Member

10-26-2010

i thought leblanc was another swain lol


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Sarcasma

Senior Member

10-26-2010

I think Emelie LeBlanc is a much cooler champion name than LeBlanc personally.


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Elhehir

Senior Member

10-26-2010

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Knekt:
I am from Ontario and there's a ton of LeBlancs, female and male, i'm even a LeBlanc!


Thanks for brightening my lantern (LeBlanc is a virtually inexistent name in Québec and France; must probably be more common in Ontario/New Brunswick/America).

However, I am also thinking of the second point; calling the champion by her last name does not really "sound good" and, well, she seems to be a she. LeBlanc just doesn't sound very feminine or in-character.


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Sharkyzero

Junior Member

10-26-2010

Quote:
Elhehir:
Just stating my opinion (from a native French-speaking point of view) on two points:

Firstly,

I have just read the name of the to-be-released female caster champion.

Emilia LeBlanc

As a normal Québécois, fluent in French, I would like to note that her name ticks me off immensely. I nearly fully trust Riot's crew in terms of champion design and everything but

EVERY SINGLE GAMING COMPANY that comes out with a remotely french~ish name capitalizes some letter right in the middle of said name.

I don't know if I'm the only one that this irritates (only a little bit, fear not :P), but is there a reason why her name is Emilia LeBlanc instead of Leblanc?

Just asking for the reasoning under her naming scheme (maybe LeBlanc is something else in the US? I don't know)

Secondly,
Also... Leblanc just sounds masculine/neutral in French, I would very much suggest to have the "main" champion name to be Emilia instead of Leblanc (just for consistency with the champion's ***... unless I have something wrong and it's A TARP!)

Besides, most champions in the League are also principally named by their first name instead of their last name.


Stop posting.


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