Darius perfectly balanced 50% win rate

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Skillz4theBillz

Junior Member

02-12-2013

Darius is far from OP... He's not balanced and he's not really UP he's in a weird place.

Pros:
Ult true damage

Ult refreshes on kill

Lane bully

Tanky
Cons:
No escapes*

Due to no escapes he can't use his ability to bully the lane w/o pushing and the jungler grabbing a free kill

Takes kills from ADC in teamfights

If he misses his ult (lol this does happen sadly) he is basically useless

Not a great team fight presence (there are MUCH better top laners for team fights:jayce/wukong/kennen/olaf/jax/xin zhao)

Easy to gank due to no escapes

Countered by ranged (teemo eats darius)

There are probably many more Pros/Cons but these were things off the top of my head. Darius doesn't see ranked play and until he does don't expect a nerf. IMO i expect a rework of some sorts to make him actually viable before they nerf an already not that viable Champion.


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Kholdstare13

Senior Member

02-12-2013

Out of the 50% losses, how many are because he played the entire game stealing kills from the carry, underfeeding his entire team, and proceeding to lose 1v5 late game? He's still stronger than balanced, and needs tweaks to discourage random kill stealing.


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pengwndude

Senior Member

02-14-2013

Darius is op imo
his pull is BARELY short of teemo's blind or yorick's ghouls.
a small mistake to poke can lead to him approaching you mid animation, pull slow q ULT.
The combo is so easy to pull off.

My main beef with darius is not that he does too much damage, but he's so tanky for all of it.

He's not a flat tank like others but for the obscene amount of damage, he oughta be much squishier.
Not necessarily ad carry squshy, but maybe along the lines of wukong a bit.

Pantheon does a lot of damage but his shield makes him sort of tanky. However, depending on your build means sacrificing a stat, such as damage or defense.

Darius with a warmogs is near impossible to kill. Even a 0/10 darius is still something to be cautious of just because of his damage vs durability.
It's this balance they need to strike


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asamu

Senior Member

02-14-2013

"Balanced" in that he has a kit with little synergy, 1 brokenly strong ability and a good strong passive with the rest of his abilities being below average at best, and he doesn't scale well into the late game.

He is a horribly designed champion that ended up with a 50% win rate because he is so good at stomping noobs but below average when he is against competent players.


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CerealBoxOfDoom

Senior Member

02-14-2013

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Originally Posted by pengwndude View Post
Darius is op imo
his pull is BARELY short of teemo's blind or yorick's ghouls.
a small mistake to poke can lead to him approaching you mid animation, pull slow q ULT.
The combo is so easy to pull off.

My main beef with darius is not that he does too much damage, but he's so tanky for all of it.

He's not a flat tank like others but for the obscene amount of damage, he oughta be much squishier.
Not necessarily ad carry squshy, but maybe along the lines of wukong a bit.

Pantheon does a lot of damage but his shield makes him sort of tanky. However, depending on your build means sacrificing a stat, such as damage or defense.

Darius with a warmogs is near impossible to kill. Even a 0/10 darius is still something to be cautious of just because of his damage vs durability.
It's this balance they need to strike
even if he pulls teemo teemo can escape. Darius has no range and no second gap closer and no way to catch teemo again for a very long time not to mention teemo wont be taking much damage or getting the stacks too fast off his aa.

Even if teemo gets pulled and sits there to AA darius only has 2 abilities that can deal any damage to him and one is his ult. The darius ult with 1 stack at 500AD at level 18 deals 858 damage, this isnt enough to kill teemo.


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BoresRaptor

Senior Member

02-14-2013

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Originally Posted by Skillz4theBillz View Post
Darius is far from OP... He's not balanced and he's not really UP he's in a weird place.

Pros:
Ult true damage

Ult refreshes on kill

Lane bully
sorry but u lose vs darius and try to said he is op what a noob

ulti true dmg? olaf E have true dmg and 2 sec cooldown =)

Ulti refreshes on kill? Master yi refresh all skill when he kill a champ

lane bully ? like other 100 champ


l2p


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