@Riot: WHY change matchmaking when it was fine? buff UP champs instead

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Grockk

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02-11-2013

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Originally Posted by Morello View Post
a game without power caps and heavy power creep (something still happening faster than I'd like...) can disrupt the core game design focused around choices, decision-making, and strategy.
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Our interaction on here isn't just lip-service, it's so we can better optimize decisions around player wants - and explain what players need when they don't want it.
There are over 100 champs, yet only around 20 show up in tournaments. We have dedicated "buff irelia" threads, "buff warwick" threads, "buff heimerdinger" threads, "buff leblanc" threads, "buff karma" threads. How about releasing a patch that adjusts some of the stats of the underpowered champs up a little bit? No redesigns required. Just tweak some numbers and release it on the PBE for testing.


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Voidgolem

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02-11-2013

even if they buffed weaker champions, you'd still only see like 20 being used in tournaments.


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Bloodmo0n

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02-11-2013

think of it like this:
they nerf some stronger champions.
now the weaker champions become considerably stronger

Now, look at trundle. He is suddenly looking quite viable after all of these nerfs to other champs, right?


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Grockk

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02-11-2013

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even if they buffed weaker champions, you'd still only see like 20 being used in tournaments.
In season 1, of the 76 champions available, 46 appeared in the championship. That's 60% of the champions making a tournament appearance. Today there are 116 or so champions. Have we seen 70 of them (the same 60%) in tournaments? Have we even seen 46?

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http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Season_One


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atheimetal

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02-11-2013

Buff Galio! The only thing less useful than mass AP is a tank specifically designed to tank AP.


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Laszlø

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02-11-2013

but they didn't change matchmaking all that much x.x

what you see on your profile is different, but who you get matched with in game is figured the same way


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02-11-2013

http://leaguepedia.com/wiki/Season_2...hip/Statistics
Season 1 Championship: 28 Total Games Played 46 Champions Used
Season 2 World championship :31 Total Games Played 58 Champions Used


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Grockk

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02-11-2013

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but they didn't change matchmaking all that much x.x

what you see on your profile is different, but who you get matched with in game is figured the same way
Yeah people complained about the matchmaking, but they didnt change it. What they did change was adding divisions and leagues and MMR instead of ELO. Is that REALLY what people wanted?


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epaR sbooN

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02-11-2013

becouse most of the buff threads like - irelia and etc for example are just pure fanboying such champions are FINE
also you cant just buff WW like that we saw what hell was when they just listened to the bads and indirectly overbuffed his top laning


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Ralik098

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02-11-2013

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Originally Posted by Grockk View Post
There are over 100 champs, yet only around 20 show up in tournaments. We have dedicated "buff irelia" threads, "buff warwick" threads, "buff heimerdinger" threads, "buff leblanc" threads, "buff karma" threads. How about releasing a patch that adjusts some of the stats of the underpowered champs up a little bit? No redesigns required. Just tweak some numbers and release it on the PBE for testing.
Won't happen, Morello apparently doesn't think maintaining champion balance is as important as... whatever else the live balance team actually does. Plus several of those champions are intentionally kept weak because Morello doesn't like them.

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Heh, there's a lot of this, but that's understandale

I actually think both of these characters have core fundamental problems that keep us from wanting to be good. Poppy's design is, for lack of a better word, oppressive, and there's just nearly no gameplay to focus on in the current Irelia kit.

Either way though, is this the most important thing to fix in all the things to fix? My thought is not even close.


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