Do you think Warmog's Armor and HP stacking in general is too strong right now?

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mambawarrior0

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02-10-2013

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Originally Posted by Fenstick View Post
Nope. Penetration is too strong and resistances are too weak.
This.


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Joebags

Senior Member

02-10-2013

% armor reduction in particular is too strong, making it possible to ignore large amounts of armor. As a result, you are forced to stack HP if you want to survive, since resistances don't do anything. Hence warmogs.

I really think the best solution is to 1) revert penetration changes so that % is calculated after flat, 2) make health cost slightly more (for example giant's belt: 1000g -> 1050g), 3) change black cleaver from % armor reduction to either % armor penetration or flat armor reduction. % armor reduction really is just unnecessarily strong, and 4) add better % hp damage items into the game. BotRK and Liandry's are situational and meh at best, and both work off of current hp.


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Grigorian Tutor

Senior Member

02-10-2013

Nerfing HP is not solution. It wasnt buffed much to begin with and real problem is the lack of other viable option. Defenses got nerfed by cost effectiveness, penetration got boosted, Blackcleaver became a core item for most tops, new aegis upgrade allows one person to MR his team.


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Lesthrid

Senior Member

02-10-2013

Health stacking is only strong on a few champions, namely bruisers with high base damage or those that can get free resists. Garen and Olaf are prime examples. The S3 changes made them VERY strong because health stacking is more effective. On the other hand, health stacking counters AP along with mr, meaning that even though resists are weaker opponents are harder to burst. So AP carries are losing their place.


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Kadajko

Senior Member

02-10-2013

Nerf HP, and make ALL the champions have non-scaling MR of 30.


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The Legend Of

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02-10-2013

meanwhile people forgot about eve for some reason even though she was nerfed, shes still going to drop a 4k hp tank with 200 armor and 0 MR in 1 second flat


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BrightNooblar

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02-10-2013

Tip to starting a worthwhile dialogue, don't start the thread with " . " as a post.


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ProfessorPeaches

Junior Member

02-10-2013

Maybe implement a dmg/%hp item *cough* Madred's Bloodrazer *cough*, or an item similar. It would give people a sort of "counter" to the giants belt stacking players.


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LrRecon

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02-10-2013

Warmogs gives less hp than it did before they changed it fyi.


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Vempyre

Senior Member

02-10-2013

Need an ADC / Solo top to counter the meta? Why not Vayneberg?


I really do hope they nerf HP soon but with the healthbar changes that won't be happening it seems. -_-

I'm starting to miss armor and magic resist. ._.