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What if Odyn's were more like Randuin's?

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Kholdstare13

Senior Member

02-08-2013

What if they reworked Odyn's to slow attackers when you are hit by a single target ability? Kass wouldn't be able to walk as far away after his combo, and you would have more of a chance to counter-CC him before his ult came back up. It would also affect Nidalee spear-kiting, and much more. Of course, it would slow against AD abilities as well, but the MR makes it ideal as a counter to kiting casters. Randuin's has its job slowing the movement and damage of an ADC. Wouldn't it be nice to get an alternative to at least slow the movement of those AP kiters? (if not also moving the passive 10% resistance to an offensive 10% debuff, more team-oriented) Let me know what you think.


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DiscworldDeath

Senior Member

02-08-2013

And then most combo mages would never be able to kite anything, ever, which is the only way they could somehow survive.

Annie Q, Cass E, Malzahar's space aids, Urgot Q, all of Leblanc's kit aside from her blink, Fizz's gap closer - etc.

Heck, it'd completely remove the point behind targeted gap closers... getting slowed for free after gap closing on someone sounds like it misses the whole point.

Seriously, try to think more than just throwing ideas that are bad ideas out there....


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Catnium

Senior Member

02-08-2013

as long as it keeps the 10% magic damage reduction


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Redeemed In Fire

Senior Member

02-08-2013

Quote:
DiscworldDeath:

Seriously, try to think more than just throwing ideas that are bad ideas out there....

And try to think before berating someone for trying to propose an idea.


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SuperQuackDuck

Senior Member

02-08-2013

Was thinking exactly the same thing about a mr version of randuins, what with the extra MS flying around these days.


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Orphane

Senior Member

02-08-2013

Quote:
RCIX:
And try to think before berating someone for trying to propose an idea.


Again, this item hurts every AP caster that isn't Kassadin far more than it hurts Kassadin.


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Nyx87

Senior Member

02-08-2013

Randuin's is incredibly powerful in its current form, I'm surprised no one has caught on to it yet.

Also, if you take away a Ranged AP Champion's option to kite what do they have left?


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DiscworldDeath

Senior Member

02-08-2013

Quote:
Orphane:
Again, this item hurts every AP caster that isn't Kassadin far more than it hurts Kassadin.


It hurts almost everyone...

Mundo Cleaver, skill used to help in kiting? Mundo's gonna get kited.
Nasus' Wither? He gets slowed too.
Malphite Q...
Morgana Q

And these are just skills to help you catch/kite someone. The collateral damage from this item is huge.

It's the equivalent of suggesting the following item to counter Teemo's passive:
If a champion doesn't move at least 150 units every second over 5 seconds, it gets revealed. Range: Global.

No more ambushes, or just having to click incessantly.


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Albert Dakkar

Senior Member

02-08-2013

I would say that Odyn's is already pretty strong as it is.


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Redeemed In Fire

Senior Member

02-08-2013

Quote:
Orphane:
Again, this item hurts every AP caster that isn't Kassadin far more than it hurts Kassadin.

The problem isn't that (I mostly agree) it's the "you're dumb and you should shut up because you didn't come up with an awesome idea in the first post" line in DiscworldDeath's reply which I was talking about.


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