These classes of Champions are useless

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DarksideEric

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02-07-2013

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Originally Posted by Xavieevy View Post
Exactly!

"Baddies get caught out and try to 1v1 the champion group that is designed to win 1v1s" Well put, this is the truth. Bruisers dominating mid and bot lane now.
He's talking about you.


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Chaz5

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02-07-2013

Carries are still capable of carrying hard, I am sensing some butthurt from the op.


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Alvan Yakatori

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02-07-2013

I got a penta as kass in S3


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Zaurok

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02-07-2013

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Originally Posted by Crimson5pheonix View Post
That's all bruisers. Bruisers that only build 1 or 2 damage items are wannabe tanks, they don't actually do damage. It just looks like they do between their carries doing all the lifting and going after squishies that die easily.

The best example of this is Darius. For a good while, Darius players would build straight tank and end up with a majority of the team's kills, which made it look like he dealt tons of damage. But if you went back and looked at his damage dealt, he usually dealt the least damage on a team apart from the support.

So the current meta with straight tank bruisers is a trick, they're fooling you into thinking you can build straight tank on a bruiser and deal a ton of damage. Naturally you have to focus the damage dealer, but they make it look like the damage dealer is tough. In reality, he can be focused easily AFTER you kill the enemy damage dealers.
Darius is a bad example because he does deal high damage via his ult. If you leave him be he'll pop one target down(and if he gets the kill, can do it again). He can also peel people away from his carry or pull your team if needed. The problem is not that they do high damage, it's that they do good sustain damage while preventing your team from reaching the squishy targets and aren't easily killed if focused.

As for warmog, they should move a portion of the HP into stacks (like the old one) where you need to farm to get the full HP. That would nerf the item mid game without actually touching the final stats for late-mid/late game. And while we talk about items, Mejai(and sword of the occult although nobody really use that one... yet.) should be removed from the game. Snowball items are toxic.


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Crimson5pheonix

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02-07-2013

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Originally Posted by Zaurok View Post
Darius is a bad example because he does deal high damage via his ult. If you leave him be he'll pop one target down(and if he gets the kill, can do it again). He can also peel people away from his carry or pull your team if needed. The problem is not that they do high damage, it's that they do good sustain damage while preventing your team from reaching the squishy targets and aren't easily killed if focused.

As for warmog, they should move a portion of the HP into stacks (like the old one) where you need to farm to get the full HP. That would nerf the item mid game without actually touching the final stats for late-mid/late game. And while we talk about items, Mejai(and sword of the occult although nobody really use that one... yet.) should be removed from the game. Snowball items are toxic.
1 ability is not enough to deal high damage. You can actually look at games and who did damage in the game. Darius invariably comes up short unless he actually builds damage, which makes him squishy. Darius can't peel once you understand that he's probably not doing any of the damage and the pull is situationally useful at best.


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Awfully Beast

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02-07-2013

Bruisers, only stupid players cannot get fed with bruisers... only stupid players stack damage on bruisers... If anyone hasn't noticed that someone who knows how to play a bruiser stacks hp, it doesn't matter if the carry on the other team is fed, who cares if they are doing decent amounts of damage when you have 3 times as much health as them and almost matching that persons damage... thats what its about. bruisers can currently play any lane, by simply stacking hp early.


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CerealBoxOfDoom

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02-07-2013

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Originally Posted by Xavieevy View Post
Ofc there are some exceptions.

Katarina, Vayne, Kog maw. But most AP mages can't kill people because they're killed instantly during laning phase because Jayce is poking them to death.'

IF there is a way to counter this this in the case of the champion classes mentioned before. Please tell me how. I would rather it be a cheap option.
how dare you put katarina on the same level as vayne and kog.
I shall direct e-rage at you now.

boo-hiss!


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Ansaa

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02-07-2013

Blade of the Ruined King
•Attack damage increased to 45 from 40.
•Percentage of current health damage increased to 5% from 4%.


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CerealBoxOfDoom

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02-07-2013

I question the existence of the superior bruiser meta. Any evidence to the contrary?

the tournament picks and bans from this sight should be of help.
http://leaguepedia.com/wiki/Main_Page


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Zaurok

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02-07-2013

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Blade of the Ruined King
•Attack damage increased to 45 from 40.
•Percentage of current health damage increased to 5% from 4%.
Problem with that is it's current HP instead of max (old madred was max) and it is magical damage (which you don't build against as AD).