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Just had an Ezreal build Tri-Force first

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QC Sniper

Senior Member

02-07-2013

Trinity when your team do good damage
Bloodthirster when your team is tankier and do less damage.
Simple no ?


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Spacedevil

Senior Member

02-07-2013

Today I learned:

If the stat that says "Attack Damage" is lower, you will do less damage, even with 30% attack speed and 10% crit and a 150 damage proc every 3 seconds.

Edit: and yes the math has been done many times before and is easy to do, just Triforce is more damage than just Bloodthirster. It is roughly equal to only Infinite Edge.


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Dewtrocity

Senior Member

02-07-2013

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Spacedevil:
Today I learned:

If the stat that says "Attack Damage" is lower, you will do less damage, even with 30% attack speed and 10% crit and a 150 damage proc every 3 seconds.

Edit: and yes the math has been done many times before and is easy to do, just Triforce is more damage than just Bloodthirster. It is roughly equal to only Infinite Edge.


Did you forget about the cost?


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Purple Puma

Senior Member

02-07-2013

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Dewtrocity:
Ezreal already is one of the easiest to survive with AD Carries with his E, why do you need a Tri-Force to survive with him when other carries don't need it? If you seriously need that just to survive maybe you should either learn to position or quit playing ADC.

Ok, there's a time when rushing a tri is really good, and times when it's bad. If you're ahead in kills and farm, rushing that tri isn't a bad idea at all. But if you're behind, or lost tower, than yes, go for more survivability with BT. It's like any other AD carry that rush IE, it all depends on how the laning phase is going, and how your ability to play against the opposing AD carry is.

Another thing to note, an Ez that has Doran's Blade, a Phage and boots is pretty hard to kill during the laning phase.


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Defnist47

Senior Member

02-07-2013

You don't build PD on ezreal, lol. Trinity +passive is enough. Trinforce on ezreal first is amazing but it depends on how well you farm and the opponent. For an early game item it is strong because of the utility with chasing, more mana , sheen procs and you will do a lot more poking and have higher dps than other adc's who rely on just ad with no attack speed and weak if any poke at all.


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Kamijou Touma

Recruiter

02-07-2013

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Dewtrocity:
Did you forget about the cost?


in terms of 70 ad vs trinity force, trinity force is going to win in both price and damage, you can try to calculate it yourself, the passive from spellblade combined with low cd q and occasional essence flux as well as 1.1x your auto attack(assuming you have 0 crit chance) and 30% as buff is simply too much for bt to beat tri in terms of just for damage you would need bt to be really stacked in order to actually beat it.


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FreeGothitelle

Senior Member

02-07-2013

Quote:
Spacedevil:
Today I learned:

If the stat that says "Attack Damage" is lower, you will do less damage, even with 30% attack speed and 10% crit and a 150 damage proc every 3 seconds.

Edit: and yes the math has been done many times before and is easy to do, just Triforce is more damage than just Bloodthirster. It is roughly equal to only Infinite Edge.

Damage per cost bro.

Bloodthirster does more damage, and costs way less.
70 less AD is a tonne less (inb4 herder takes stacks that's only like 2 creep waves), no sustain is way worse, and ezreal has the mobility not to need any stats besides the AS+crit.
You're paying for waaaay more than you need, for overall less damage.
If trinity gave cooldown reduction allowing you to stack your passive faster, maybe it'd be worth it.
Since it doesn't, that 30% attack speed isn't actually that much more (80% vs 50% overall bonus).
The 70 AD, 18% lifesteal and pricetag is going to be the deciding factor. (as well as the much smoother build path, phage, sheen, and zeal are horrible compared to BF sword in lane).

But you know, what do the pros know, Triforce is clearly a good item despite the fact it's bought absolutely never by ezreal.


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Arcane Azmadi

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02-07-2013

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I know Tri-Force is still good on him but first item seriously?

It's ONLY good as a first item. You get a Triforce on Ez for the early game advantage from the components (especially the Phage) and the mid-game power spike when you complete it. As a late-game item it's not worth it compared to the rest of the standard ADC kit (Last Whisper, Infinity Edge etc).


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Corporal Cupcake

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02-07-2013

Triforce should be built first on every champ in the game except Corki, who's first item should be Guinsoo's Rageblade.


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Purple Puma

Senior Member

02-07-2013

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FreeGothitelle:
Damage per cost bro.

Bloodthirster does more damage, and costs way less.
70 less AD is a tonne less (inb4 herder takes stacks that's only like 2 creep waves), no sustain is way worse, and ezreal has the mobility not to need any stats besides the AS+crit.
You're paying for waaaay more than you need, for overall less damage.
If trinity gave cooldown reduction allowing you to stack your passive faster, maybe it'd be worth it.
Since it doesn't, that 30% attack speed isn't actually that much more (80% vs 50% overall bonus).
The 70 AD, 18% lifesteal and pricetag is going to be the deciding factor. (as well as the much smoother build path, phage, sheen, and zeal are horrible compared to BF sword in lane).

But you know, what do the pros know, Triforce is clearly a good item despite the fact it's bought absolutely never by ezreal.

I think you also forgot about Ez's passive, the amount of range he has, and the passive on Mystic Shot.