Really you nerf the grail again?

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Quintessence

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02-04-2013

I don't even see a point in buying it anymore at that price point and those stats.


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Elchulus

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02-04-2013

I don't even think that's a nerf, bro

Even if it is, only in the slightest.


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Quintessence

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02-04-2013

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Originally Posted by Elchulus View Post
I don't even think that's a nerf, bro

Even if it is, only in the slightest.
They clearly want CDR to not be a viable option.

and they already took 30 ap off it along with a few other things.


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Blumpkination69

Senior Member

02-04-2013

They nerfed CDR on everything except Stark's or whatever it's called now.

But they gave it +5 to Mr on Grail.

It's not that bad. You'll have 10-14% instead of 19% now. Get morello's for good AP, some mana regen, and 20% CDR. You'll be at 30/34%


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ObscureClockwork

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02-04-2013

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I don't even think that's a nerf, bro

Even if it is, only in the slightest.
i'd say 5% cdr is quite worse than the 10 extra MR.
because i feel grail's function was originally made to support mana heavy mages who want to send out a lot of spells. thus you can sustain it all
now, it feels like they want to give it to tanks or something


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Quintessence

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02-04-2013

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Originally Posted by ObscureClockwork View Post
i'd say 5% cdr is quite worse than the 10 extra MR.
because i feel grail's function was originally made to support mana heavy mages who want to send out a lot of spells. thus you can sustain it all
now, it feels like they want to give it to tanks or something
They are just kicking AP casters while they are down at this point...


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RoflSyrup

Senior Member

02-04-2013

It is very disappointing. The grail has always been my go-to item on mana-reliant champions.


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Quintessence

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02-04-2013

What can heavy mana users get now? I suppose they can stack RoA's?


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ninbushido

Senior Member

02-04-2013

Deathfire's Grasp's CDR was nerfed too...
At least Zhonya's and Rabadon's have been buffed.


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Blumpkination69

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02-04-2013

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Originally Posted by Quintessence View Post
What can heavy mana users get now? I suppose they can stack RoA's?
Mana regen seals and chalice? Then build something more useful? Morello's? It does have a GP10 item that's useful for building into it.


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