Comparing the Liandry's (math inside)

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IS11d6327cb35cafc124891

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02-04-2013

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Originally Posted by Krimson62 View Post
For any champ with high AP ratios this is a nerf.

For champs with low ap ratios it is a very slight buff
pretty much this.


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CountMoriarty

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02-04-2013

Correct me if I'm wrong but it also does more damage faster?

Its important because a lot of very good Liandry's users (Kayle, Eve) Applies liandry's over and over again with there abilities.


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Nbur

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02-04-2013

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Originally Posted by relevantex View Post
Umm...what about the AP?
its relative you dip ****


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iSpencer

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02-04-2013

What if the enemy is taking damage from other sources during those three seconds of ticks? I'd rather have the 5% over three seconds if the enemy happens to lose a ton of hp during the seconds the item recalculates itself.


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SLRMercedes

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02-04-2013

Ok . . . let's use Singed's Poison Trail as an example to demonstrate better

assume Singed only have Liandry (and enemy have 3000 hp)

Old Liandry
+ 60 AP
deals 5% current hp as magic damage over 3 sec

Singed's Poison Trail deals 70 (+30% AP) per sec for 3 sec

0.05(3000) = 150
70 + .3(60) = 88
88(3) = 264
total damage over 3 sec = 414 magic damage

New Liandry
+ 50 AP
deals 2% current hp per sec for 3 sec

damage from Q per sec : 70 + .3(50) = 85
0.02(3000) = 60 ; (3000 - 85 - 60 = 2855) , hp after 1 sec = 2855
0.02(2855) = 57 ; (2855 - 85 - 57 = 2713) , hp after 2 sec = 2713
0.02(2713) = 54 ; (2713 - 85 - 54 = 2574) , hp after 3 sec = 2574

total damage of new Liandry over 3 sec = 3000 - 2574 = 426


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SLRMercedes

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02-04-2013

So yeah, it's a nerf to high AP champs but a buff to low AP champions


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lol I died again

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02-04-2013

tl;dr: Just build Zhonya's instead. It's strong and excellent for trolling.


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Menea6587

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02-04-2013

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Originally Posted by Alphonse E1ric View Post
You couldn't just say it's 1% better and leave it at that?
No, you have to keep it relative to itself.
It's now 20% better.


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Silverkillz

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02-04-2013

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Originally Posted by Krimson62 View Post
For any champ with high AP ratios this is a nerf.

For champs with low ap ratios it is a very slight buff
Which pretty much buffs tanky AP bruisers and nerfs people who could counter meta. Slightly.


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bob000

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02-04-2013

Old Liandry also calculated current hp every tick. It was just phrased deceivingly in the tooltip.


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