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Is Deathcap even necessary anymore?

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kinbountykin

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02-01-2013

I should rush DC on syndra and zyra over DFG correct?


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Deathsin7

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02-01-2013

Its still good and essential on most APC, but its no longer a first item to rush. Other AP items (such as the buffed DFG/Zhonyas, and others) are now more worth it as they now bring almost the same amount of damage as deathcap if you only have one item, while providing utility such as actives,hp/resists,cdr,mana/manaregen,mpen,etc. but deathcap is still a very good item if you already have a lot of AP - there's where the passive starts to shine. and as long as that passive stays, it's still going to be good on basically every APC (sans ryze), and probably be bought as second/third item now.


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rathy Aro

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02-01-2013

I'm noticing the same trend with IE. They both are expensive items that focus only on damage and scale with exceptionally well with a stat (crits/AP). They both also no longer get rushed because the champs who buy them can't afford to miss out on the utility they would get from other items. The thing is if someone goes the rather difficult path of IE first (difficult because vamp scepter an IE are so expensive) they are thoroughly rewarded for skipping out on utility with a TON of damage. Also IE does scale with crit, but you only need your next item to feel the incredibly scaling (PD). With death cap you get essentially nothing when you rush it over a DFG, zhonya's, lich bane, etc. because it needs more a considerable amount of AP to realize its emphasis on damage. So if you are a damage oriented mage you will eventually get it, but how interesting is it to have an item that you will have to buy eventually at a time where the game is often over or decided?

tl:dr: I would like deathcap to give you a ton of AP up front and in tern, I wouldn't mind if its passive was toned down or if the price increased (so long as the AP given is more cost effective than it is now).


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Criomhthann

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02-01-2013

It's absolutely worth it, it just doesn't get effective until after you have built other AP items first. Don't rush it first.


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Disgustipated86

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02-01-2013

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With all the nerfs to its AP and the passive as well as buffs to other AP items it doesn't really seem necessary anymore. Now it gives the same amount of AP as Zhonya's and DFG and even a fully stacked Archangels and the only advantage it has is the passive. It also doesn't give anything besides ability power while Zhonya's has armor, DFG has the CDR and the active, and Archangels has the shield. Even with the passive Deathcap doesn't seem to make you do that much more damage than if you just built a Zhonyas or an Archangels etc. and if you don't build it you make space for other AP items that give more benefits. Thoughts?


Deathcap on Karma or Syndra is awesome


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NEOtheONE

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02-01-2013

Anivia loves deathcap more than the other two. If she is getting close enough to use DFG, then she's probably going to get blown up, and she can't channel her ult while invulnerable with Zhonya's.


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