Why is shaco constantly nerfed

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QueeFacism

Junior Member

02-01-2013

im sick of his nerfing because i dont know why people are saying "his level2 gank is too op" when its not. Now he wont be able to outrange turrets,oracles,wards making it almost impossible to gank at early levels.


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Magic Library

Senior Member

02-01-2013

He is constantly nerfed because people don't like to play smart, and think wards are useless.

"Oh he can stealth past wards"

Pre-Nerf Shaco only punished people for playing recklessly. He can essentially teach you the rule everyone should learn, "Don't chase and overextend."


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Best Zod NA

Senior Member

02-01-2013

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Pre-Nerf Shaco only punished people for playing recklessly. He can essentially teach you the rule everyone should learn, "Don't chase and overextend."
Playing recklessly like approaching the mid-point of your lane before 6 or being low on health anywhere at any time. Shaco's early ganks with red were insanely powerful, especially before the shiv nerfs.


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Arrevax

Senior Member

02-01-2013

A post I left on another "Why was Shaco nerfed?" thread (which was started by another OP who hardly knew what he was talking about):
"And then, people learned to play against him.
Shaco was far from being overpowered before this nerf occurred. He capitalizes on the unaware and the foolish. He excels at getting behind unaware, pushed-up enemies and preventing them from escaping. Do you know what happens when Shaco tries to go after a lane that is pushed up toward his enemies' tower, or at a lane right in the middle? He can't take you down before you get to your tower, and Shaco is extremely squishy. He can't tower dive at all without Ohmwrecker, which I've hardly seen on any champ, let alone Shaco. He can't use his ultimate to tank the tower effectively, either, because the clone's controls are gimpy and if it hits the enemy champion, tower agro goes to Shaco.
Shaco punishes people for pushing, like any other jungler, but he specializes in it. While a jungle Malphite or Rammus simply tanks the tower and helps his fellow laner get a kill, Shaco discourages people from pushing early on. Come mid and late-game, all he can do is take out towers and duel carries stupid enough to go push by themselves, along with sending his clone on suicide missions in teamfights, because Shaco can't take a hit and live. His slow simply gave him the CC he needed to do his job (punishing pushers), and his Q allowed him to get away alive when things got hairy (and he was lucky enough to be playing against people who can't predict where he'll run while stealthed). These nerfs threaten Shaco's only true strength, which is taking down those who think early game is a race to the enemy's tower."
Shaco's strength is that he keeps early game from being a race to push down his team's towers. Any jungler can come in and gank a pushed up lane (or a low-health enemy that won't recall); that's just what Shaco excelled at. Other junglers can go in on a lane that is pushed up and tank the turret (ex: Shen), while Shaco has to wait for the right opportunities to come up. Is being aware that the enemy jungler champion's main strength is punishing pushers during early game so difficult? Learning what champions can do that other champions cannot is vital to this game. Learn to play against Shaco, and end the QQ.


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bunies

Senior Member

02-01-2013

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Originally Posted by QueeFacism View Post
Yes i know about his red lvl 2 but That is easily stoped with a simple flash and when you want to passivly jungle and level up (get blue) Then it is a struggle to gank When there are alot more op champs other than shaco. Im not saying hes weak. im saying that theres champs alot stronger than him and "red buff" gank doesnt work half the time
then your doing it wrong


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QueeFacism

Junior Member

02-02-2013

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Originally Posted by bunies View Post
then your doing it wrong
No Ur not getting the point.


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HOMO KPOP

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02-02-2013

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No Ur not getting the point.
whats your point? that there are stronger champions than the one you like? Q_Q

shaco's early ganks are dominant compared to others....I don't see the point of the nerf on slows but the range nerf is sensible.


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fletche00

Senior Member

02-02-2013

Shaco has recieved severl QoL buffs in the past year.

They finally nerf his range of Deceive, and lower the slow from 2-shiv.....whats the big deal?

He use to be way worse when his boxes wouldnt attack proper targets and what not.


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QueeFacism

Junior Member

02-04-2013

ok shaco gets his 1 and only kill at level 2 great...Now what? Even you guys are saying his late game is weak. Ur being thick if u think that one early game kill it too op. if ur still an idiot who thinks he needs to be nerfed then thats ur problem. Just read these threads and see what u think

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/....php?t=3066973
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/....php?t=3066690
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/....php?t=3065882


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Awsar

Senior Member

02-04-2013

hes not bad but he should be able to gank the hell out of people thats his job.people complain about his ganks hes an assassian thats what hes supposed to do.
but riot shouldnt nerf him hes not that powerful


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