Goth Annie Available in the Upcoming Patch

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Agility

Senior Member

02-01-2013

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Originally Posted by EternalCrim View Post
the ones that don't want it released aren't acting there age so every time they do this all the old gamers are gonna put on an act? it maybe exclusive but there should always be second chances for those that didn't play back then. many games iv played its been the same or worse its called sucking up your pride and getting over it if you didn't have the skin and it was coming out again you'd prob jump on the opportunity
Why should there be second chances?

How about you suck up your pride and realize that it isn't available to you anymore.

The funny part is...the skin is available...if you buy the bundle.

I just don't like the trend. It's fun to have skins no one else owns.

I have Christmas Zilean, Black Ali, King Rammus, etc...


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KaiFleur

Junior Member

02-01-2013

Well! There goes the skin for me. I'd rather pay the 975rp for it than what...3000-something rp? All the champions in that digital pack I won't even play and don't need the XP boost. Oh well :/


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Pudgy Prinny

Junior Member

02-01-2013

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Originally Posted by Agility View Post
Why should there be second chances?

How about you suck up your pride and realize that it isn't available to you anymore.

The funny part is...the skin is available...if you buy the bundle.

I just don't like the trend. It's fun to have skins no one else owns.

I have Christmas Zilean, Black Ali, King Rammus, etc...
i dont care about the skin lol if anything id get the chinese new year skin how often do people play annie and how often do people use that skin out of how long iv been playing iv really never seen anyone use gothic skin and congradz you have those skins.


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Koverius

Senior Member

02-01-2013

That's really pathetic, Riot.

Not allowing a limited sale because of some people stupid enough to pay 3900 RP just to get the skin.


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Toschs

Member

02-01-2013

The funny thing is, the skin is not exclusive.

It isn't special, it is still available if you just buy the bundle. Which is why making this skin 975 RP shouldn't be a big deal. This isn't All-Star Akali or Kitty Katarina we are talking about here, it is just a BONUS for buying the bundle a bundle made for noobs who need champions.

I doubt anyone bought the bundle in the first place for the Annie skin, considering nobody even plays Annie. So to all the Goth Annie fans crying- stop trying to BS us here. You never even played Annie before this rework so you never even like the skin anyway. You just wanna feel special because you missed the chance to get a All-Star Akali or something actually worth bragging about.


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Legriah

Junior Member

02-01-2013

I'm late to the party, I know.

Truth be told, it used to be an ugly skin, and a phenomenal waste of cash if A. Goth Annie was the only thing you wanted out of the bundle or B. you already had the bulk of the champions in the bundle. I for one was completely unaware of the bundle until I had over half the champions anyways, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

I think *temporarily* being reduced was completely sensible, since many people also declined going after Goth Annie because she was hideous once upon a time. It's a shame that one of the skins that got the most love is unavailable to the vast majority of the player base on the simple premise that they couldn't justify a high price point for such a skin.

I do, however, feel bad for Riot in all this. Offer Skin: Everyone complains. Rescind offer: Everyone complains. Lose/Lose.

Don't get me wrong, I'm still disappointed. I just feel like Riot tries to do the right thing and never wins.

Riot could also give Goth Annie to players who've spent more than, I dunno, $70 in the store. That way, you're giving the skin to everyone who spent a ton of money on the game indiscriminately.

Not to mention, I'm not sure how timing matters - people keep talking about Riot turning their backs on the people who "supported them." If person A bought that bundle a year ago and other things adding up to another $40 throughout the following time, and person B bought $100 of Riot points today, doesn't that mean person B was technically more supportive? It's not like anyone got the skin for a charitable donation and it's not being distributed any more.


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Pudgy Prinny

Junior Member

02-01-2013

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That's really pathetic, Riot.

Not allowing a limited sale because of some people stupid enough to pay 3900 RP just to get the skin.
Dont worry now people are gonna do it more often when they dont want things cause riot gave in


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Virtuę

Junior Member

02-01-2013

Think about it though, Riot will still make money. Between all of the extra hype, and the new visual upgrades, people are STILL going to pay that 4k RP just for goth annie. Just like people are STILL paying over 3k RP for Pulsefire Ezreal.


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I Love Cybergoth

Junior Member

02-01-2013

Most of the people against the Goth Annie sale are just being *******s... So what if they bought the bundle, it came with a bunch of other stuff. If the bundle only had the Goth Annie skin in it and was the same price would they still have bought it?..

I dont really see it as ppl getting it cheaper, to me its the same as ordering some fast food and instead of getting the whole meal people just want one item from it.. ~sigh~ :/


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AncientPenguin

Junior Member

02-01-2013

So the way I see it there is a good reason why this skin should be put on a limited sale.. and yes it is only a single, valid reason. That's to give players, who have already bought all of the champions over time, a chance to get the skin without paying the price of two legendary skins for it..(for those of you ready to comment on the 1380RP refund I'll remind you that in order to buy the pack you need to have bought at least 3900RP first.)

For those that would argue that it's not fair for people to get a chance to get the skin cheaper than they did (e.g. "I supported riot more than you back in the day bla bla..") I direct you to this neatly calculated comment to remind you just how much you actually payed for the skin.. 'back in the day'

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Originally Posted by NauFirefox View Post
Let me do some math for everyone arguing we want it cheaper, cause we don't.

The Digital Collector Edition comes at a price of 3900 RP and comes with 1380 RP that is a total final cost of 2520 RP.

2520 RP divided by 20 champions and one skin is 120 RP per champion and for Goth Annie skin.

We are asking for the skin, for a limited time offer, at 8.125 times the price you payed for it.
For those who'd argue "But it's exclusive omg omg if you put it on sale it's not exclusive omg exclusive exclusive exclusive etc." I invite you to read this little thing called the dictionary.

For those who payed the full price while owning all the champs just to get the skin think it was the only way.. I get that. It sucks. However it doesn't constitute flat out flaming and raging against riot moments after the statement was released. You should all have the clear head on your shoulders to know that by talking it over with riot employees and on this post you would most likely be reimbursed just like people who buy champions days before champ sales. Shame on you.
On a side note those who bought that pack back in the day, you have literally no argument here, since the wast majority of you did buy the pack for the champions.. and most who've said otherwise are just lying out of unjust frustration.

Lastly I need to say that this whole fiasco is riots fault. They have made an error in their public relations and hold full responsibility here. Hippalus stated that "To anyone who was excited about the prospect of picking up Goth Annie, we’ll be looking for better ways to meet your needs as well as the needs of players who value skin exclusivity." so they will be doing something to fix this. I have no idea what (and I suspect neither do they at this moment) but the best course of action as I see it, and this has been posted before here, is to simply go through with the sale while issuing a public apology for the way they handled this matter.

TL;DR? Nope, not doing that since this post already pretty much summarizes all the arguments and counter arguments in this thread anyway.

PS. Just to clarify my stand point: I bought the Digital's collector's pack a couple of days ago. Primarily for the goth Annie skin but seeing as I still had a few champions (I think 5) missing from the list it wasn't an utter waste of cash. = Completely independent from this discussion.