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@Morello: Can you please do these as well when you are changing Riposte

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FoxMindedGuy

Senior Member

01-27-2013

GUYS, PLEASE UPVOTE AND BUMP THIS THREAD IF YOU LIKE FRENCH FRIES AND FRENCH TOAST!!!!

Duelist

- Fiora regenerates health over 4 seconds instead of 6.
- Hitting a minion when having more than 1 stack should refresh the duration of Duelist effect [I](As of now if you have 2 or more stacks and you hit a minion, it doesn't refresh)

Riposte
- Parrying now also reflect on-hit effects like poison, stun, slow etc (think Judo Flipping Volibear, stunning Renekton and knocking up Blitzcrank :P)

Burst of Speed
- Activation grants 6% movement speed and each hit on enemy grants an additional 5 / 7 / 9 / 11 / 13%.
- Removes pre-existing movement speed and attack speed slows on activation

Blade Waltz
- Successive hits against the same target reduces damage multiplicatively by 45%. This increases max single target damage from 320 / 660 / 1000 (+2.4 AD) to 338 / 696 / 1055 (+2.53 AD) | This is NOT so much of a single target damage amplifying buff, but should ACTUALLY HURT champions on being hit by her second strike
- Fiora can NOT take any NEW damage during Blade Waltz (existing dots still damage her)

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Thanks that would mean a lot to me!

Links to a few interesting reads on her:

Nice Statistics and Opinions:
Maknoon, arguably best top laner of LOL, highlights the lackluster traits and design of Fiora (http://www.esfiworld.com/maknoon-ama-translated/) (Thanks, XCopy, for bringing this up)
Averaging 44% win rate in all ELO (http://www.lolking.net/champions/fiora#statistics)
Averaging 42% win rate in Platinum only (http://www.lolking.net/champions/fiora&region=all&league=platinum#statistics)
Second last in the lowest tiers of Solo Tier List (http://www.nerfplz.com/2013/02/2013-hero-tier-list-solo-queue-season-3_11.html)
Another Solo Tier List, yet again placing her in lowest tier (http://www.reignofgaming.net/tier-lists/solo-tier-list)
Scored second lowest tier (Tier 4) in organized play (http://www.reignofgaming.net/tier-lists/competitive-tier-list)

Suggestions and Observations:
Koltell Drake Suggestion (http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3037383)
Riposte vs. Nerubian Assassin's Spiked Carapace (http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3039276)
Unfitting theme because she is SUPPOSED to be good (http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3041347)
Duelist that can NOT duel against many (http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2903413)
Best Fiora in NA's mission for getting Fiora viably buffed (http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3197994)


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Heartless Jack

Senior Member

01-27-2013

As far as I know, every Riposte is successful. Why would it be otherwise?

(I need information, post something about the changes that ARE being implemented)


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LulluLea

Senior Member

01-27-2013

Wrong section, gtfo.


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FoxMindedGuy

Senior Member

01-27-2013

Quote:
Heartless Jack:
As far as I know, every Riposte is successful. Why would it be otherwise?

(I need information, post something about the changes that ARE being implemented)


Morello agreed that Riposte being able to block on-hit effects is being tested at the moment. So I want him to throw these changes in and see how she feels. Make her get picked in competitive scene is all I am asking for.


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Tails66

Recruiter

01-27-2013

If these changes happened.

I am guaranteeing Fiora would be OP.


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BunniFace

Senior Member

01-27-2013

I love Fiora but I would not implement every single one of those at once. The one I'm worried about is Burst of Speed granting instant movespeed. I would rather have the ability grant higher max movespeed bonus so there's at least a little room for skill and it's not just press all your buttons and run at a guy.


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KotlettDrake

Senior Member

01-27-2013

As author of your first linked thread, I agree.


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KotlettDrake

Senior Member

01-27-2013

bump


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Bergtau

Senior Member

01-27-2013

The Riposte cooldown thing would be hilariously stupidly broken. 1.8 second Ripostes against auto-attackers is like, devastatingly retarded. You could kill carries by building armor/health/AP and standing there spamming W.


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PhailRaptor

Adjudicator

01-27-2013

Quote:
FoxMindedGuy:
- Parrying now also nullifies on-hit effects like poison, stun, slow etc


Morello is already planning this.

Quote:
FoxMindedGuy:
- Successful Riposte halves the cooldown of this ability


That sounds really really good. I don't know if that'll be too much though. It could be really scary.

Quote:
FoxMindedGuy:
Burst of Speed
- Activation grants 6% movement speed and each hit on enemy grants an additional 5 / 7 / 9 / 11 / 13%.


Not sure how I feel about this. The flat 6% makes the on-hit portion MASSIVE in comparison to now, because you also increased the on-hit value. Granted, I don't play Fiora, so maybe I'm way off base here, but late game as Caitlyn with Furor Zerker's, PD, Statikk Shiv, and net/traps it's almost impossible to kite a Fiora.

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FoxMindedGuy:
Blade Waltz
- Successive hits against the same target reduces damage multiplicatively by 40%. This increases max single target damage from 320 / 660 / 1000 (+2.4 AD) to 369 / 761 / 1153 (+2.76 AD)


For an increase of approximately 50/100/150 (+0.3) damage, you'd have to take a nerf somewhere. Probably in both base and ratio.

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FoxMindedGuy:
- Fiora can NOT take any new damage during Blade Waltz (existing dots still damage her)


I don't understand. She already becomes untargetable during Blade Waltz, meaning nothing new can hit her -- only persistent effects that are already on her can continue hurting her.