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DFG has an awkward build path.

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Ryzol Ryzo Ryz R

Senior Member

01-27-2013

DFG builds out of NLR, which is the only basic item with exactly one upgrade. If you buy an NLR you are committed to purchasing a DFG even if counter building makes that a bad choice.

A simple solution is to make a Dominion version of DFG and give it a build path with two blasting wands similar to wooglet's.


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Infirc

Senior Member

01-27-2013

Dw it has an even more awkward build path currently on the pbe, it builds from NLR and fiendish codex, costs 300 gold more and doesn't even have the mana regen from codex when it's finally converted


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Phourc

Senior Member

01-27-2013

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Infirc:
and doesn't even the mana regen from codex when it's finally converted


I believe they're removing the MP/5 from codex for whatever reason this next patch.


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Chaosos

Senior Member

01-27-2013

It's to make it an AP version of kindlegem, since two types of characters need CDR: Mages, and Tanks.


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Redenbacher

Senior Member

01-27-2013

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Chaosos:
It's to make it an AP version of kindlegem, since two types of characters need CDR: Mages, and Tanks.


And supports and AD casters...


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Nny

Member

01-27-2013

I don't understand how removing MP/5 from it suddenly makes it better for people without mana.

It'd be one thing if it costs less, but it doesn't. So non-mana characters get exactly the same thing they did before it was removed, and now mana characters get less. Makes no sense to me.


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konfetarius

Senior Member

01-27-2013

It costs less.

Except for BFT apparently?


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DiscworldDeath

Senior Member

01-27-2013

It doesn't really cost less on most items, or not by much.

But I'd wait till we get final and not data-mined figures, myself.

Xypherous discussed it, but seems most items with mp/5 just make many items less desirable - Nashor's for people who don't want mana, DFG for all the manaless mages, etc.

Let's see where things end up after numbers go live, then cry about it

Unless someone's willing to hop on the PBE and get us some numbers.


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Phourc

Senior Member

01-27-2013

PBE's down or I would, cause now I"m curious.


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konfetarius

Senior Member

01-27-2013

It's -180 gold cost on every item except BFT afaik. Basically fairy charm removed. Well, Morello Tome is now Kage + Fiendish Codex + Fairy charm as it still has the mana regen.

And yes, I will cry about BFT mana removal. I think BFT is perfect where it is now.


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