So, I've been seeing quite a few posts on this forum regarding the epidemic of 14 day suspensions, and I fealt as being one of those affected by this outbreak as well, I should share my input on the situation too. I will include a few of my forums posts in this thread in hopes that a Mod or Dev at Riot will see it and make a response to my inquiries.
After three days of receiving not so much as a straight answer from Riot support, and the typical generic copy/paste comments by an allegid algorithm, I have lost hope in Riot; as I have seen a once marvelous company transform into a corporate demon.
Post 1: http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com...4910367&page=4
Only been warned twice, months in-between thosee intervals of the warnings and months since the last one as well; no prior serious offenses, no chat restrict... nothing. I had approximately three games, in which I barely said anything at all; and hours after the last game (which I had lost), the only instance was me telling our Amumu that he gave me a bad gank; afterwards him harassing me about my gameplay which I then muted him, could that have been severe enough for a fourteen day suspension?
Instead of banning players for "offensive language", and aggressive/negative mentality towards their own team-mates, riot should provide players in-game additional tools to prevent such damage from occuring; we already have the chat filters and the mute feature, that should be enough to satisfy those looking for substantial influence over whether another individual can affect them in a negative manor. You see, it all comes down to player responsiblity, and one's own arbitrary standards in terms of what is socially acceptible amongst players; as the majority of the player-base will hold to their own perspective and take on the situation, and won't budge at all, it's difficult to change one's ideas and attempting to do so usually on solidifies their resolve, the only thing a ban does is stirr contempt and frustration amongst those affected, especially without being provided sufficient reason/evidence for their ban.
Anyways, this forces Riot into a rather difficult position, they have to take a radical position on this ordeal to be sure those who are "hyper-sensitive" to online interaction, and again frustration an vitreal from other players, are satisfied; so the majority of the work is placed on them as opposed to the responsibility being on the player... Which again with MILLIONS of players an a shortage of staff could be difficult, which is why again I'd like to propose we give our summoners a little more love in-terms of in-game mitigation of toxicity(tools similar to that of the ignore feature), to again mitigate much frivolous and arbitrary disdain amongst community members, those of you who agree; I hope that you will share this idea with others so that it may potentially reach a Riot Dev.
post 2:http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com...1#post50359226 (One of the paragraphs is just me venting shortly after the ban itself, please note I was frustrated in this post; so excuse any negative comments if you will.)
My own response to a few of the RIOT staff's decisions in-terms of their new ban policies, and their lack there of informing the plyaer-base off what they are doing, no announcements; no heads-up, nothing:
Can't provide tribunal/chat logs to the individuals who were banned themselves, but yet have access to them at your own convenience to make others look bad; and then publicly humiliating them for asking reasonable questions, but I suppose you take this on a personal level given that that the whole ,"No tolerence, ban someone as soon as they say even one little word or phrase that offends another", is your idea afterall. Am I right?(In response to Lyte's comment on a forum, also regarding a post on reddit:http://bit.ly/1ncfBsp)
I hope all of you on this forum realize that you have been quote "toxic" at least once throughout your time on league, regardless of what you may have said; Lyte is one of the few people who fail to recognize that individuals as a whole have human emotion, and isn't quite as lax as many other staff members, I believe he, himself aspires that he is some sort of "profit", to save the community from toxicity.
Look at society as is, how many people HAVEN'T ever, under no circumstances come off as cruel or calculating.
Others, although perceived as toxicity; include vulgar or slang terms in their own way of speaking humorously, although the pretence has been laid that under any situation; frustration, anguish, or annoyance isn't ALLOWED at any given time, regardless of the situation as a whole. Gaming isn't a chore, something that we all do because we're forced to, it's competitive, and fun; not a set of guidelines and rules you have to follow.
It should be RIOT'S expectation that including a free and open chat in-game will also stirr quite a bit of controversy and unbridled frustrations amongst players in-game, because we are only HUMAN, I believe that in a game; that includes somewhat sexual themes, (in-terms of champions) weapons, violence, and so on; that we shouldn't be punishing people for things such as "verbal abuse", when there is even a mute/ignore feature placed right in the game, meaning there should be NO excuses whatsoever that if someone was offended by another's online behavior, and their own arbitrary definitions of social norms, that the issue wouldn't have been resolved on it's own, because might I remind you, MUTE/IGNORE THEM, if you don't do so; then it is your own fault for becoming enthralled in any sort of VERBAL altercation.
Ok thanks for clarifying the date since it looked kinda strange you said that. Now for my ranking I play very little lately due to real life calling me but I did ranked season 3 and have been playing since mid season 1. I've had spurts this year where I've played lots and spurts where I haven't. My stats have no bearing on my ability to agree or follow Riots rules or interpret them and that is an excuse used by those usually that have nothing to back their arguments up with. I'm not saying that's what your doing but so far every time any of us here have seen that posted. Many of us here have smurfs we use so we don't get harassed in game by the forum trolls and toxic ragers in general so often you won't find many stats if any at all for some people here.
One of our posters who posts the same but in a nicer format than I is LargeSnorlax who's been as high as D1 so once he posts the exact same thing that argument falls flat and then the person tries a different tact. Riot and my friends know how much I've invested in this game and only riot knows how much money I've spent on the game which is quite a lot not including what's been spent on mine and my sons accounts. I wouldn't put so much into it if I wasn't dedicated to the game or the community or believe in what Riot's doing.
Also Riot's not aiming to stop- all toxicity since that's an impossibility but to lessen it's impact and go after the most obtuse and or most frequent offenders. Lyte did a presentation at MIT talking about it and the study showed(peer reviewed by the way) that showed most toxicity comes from 70% of the community with that being people merely having a bad day. The majority of the really bad toxicity comes from around 1-2% of the player base. Look up Lyte's MIT GDC presentation. It's a long video and there's a text part as well but it explains it all really well.
Lyte and Riot have already stated they realize people are going to have a bad day or 2 or 3 and the system accounts for it, but when someone has a bad day on average 12-25% more than the average summoner that's going to get Riot's attention. This isn't the occasional outburst but consistent toxic behavior that occurs and gets punished. It's not based upon reports per game but reported games in total over x time. Before Tribunal went down the average summoner was reported in around 0-4$ of games played while Ranked was around 4-8%. Toxic players however were being reported in between 12-50% or more of game splayed which is a staggering statistic.
While I agree the info's been lacking this really caught riot unawares so to speak since Tribunal was working fine and then all of a sudden it stopped creating cases as fast as it was supposed to so instead of say it doing (wag example here) building 10k cases a day it started doing less and less each day so it got down to where it might only be pumping out 100 case a a day to review.
When Riot tried to fix the problem they realized it was going to be a huge undertaking and wasn't really fixable instead they decided to bring Tribunal down while they worked to bring the newer Tribunal which was still in development out. The new afk/LeaverBuster bans as well as the intentional feeding bans and the newer ranked punishments along with the new bans were all supposed to be a part of how it incorporated things.
Currently they're testing things out on the pbe and then trying it live once they get bugs worked out. The newer Tribunal will be much faster so instead of it taking sometimes weeks to hand down a punishment it will happen within a day or days so warnings and time bans will go out quicker along with reform cards as well. Sadly reform cards were tied to the Tribunal algorithms and can't be auto emailed and pulled into chat logs so they only send out stuff if people ask for it.
Lyte did state that part of what's holding them back right now is that they're going to roll Tribunal out across all regions at the same time including those that didn't have it before. The issue they're having which surprised me being a tech nerd is that each different region is using different web tech to run on. So they can't use a 1 size fits all approach in getting it up.
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