[guide] Dr. Glock AKA Gankplank AKA Winbeard

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condon

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12-07-2009

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I've heard tell that Sheen no longer works with Parrrley the way this guide says (a teammate played pirate the other day and said he was getting higher damage output by fruiting and then shooting than he was by just shooting). Confirm or deny?
I know of no such thing. I will test it, of course, but one of the benefits of the sheen build is that you get a huge double damage hit whenever you use any ability. Scurvy, morale, and barrage offer a big melee strike, and parrrlay just straight up does double.

I'll try it out after work, but if anyone could confirm with a little science, I'd appreciate it.


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VampireFred

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12-07-2009

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I'm afraid of vampires.
why a u afraid of vampires?we are very kind and nice


PS:I do like gankplank ~~om om nom nom nom


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GrimGriz

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12-08-2009

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I'll try it out after work, but if anyone could confirm with a little science, I'd appreciate it.
Now, I was getting my arse handed to me, so don't judge me on the specifics, but with parrrley at lvl 5 (150+65%) and sheen, i was only hitting minions for 283...and if i understand the sheen description right shouldn't it do more than that?


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ShootTheBoot

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12-08-2009

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Now, I was getting my arse handed to me, so don't judge me on the specifics, but with parrrley at lvl 5 (150+65%) and sheen, i was only hitting minions for 283...and if i understand the sheen description right shouldn't it do more than that?
Sheen adds 100% of your character's base damage with the next attack, so with a level 6 gangplank it would add 70 damage to your parrrley.

The equation would be 150+70+.65*attack damage and then add in any masteries and subtract according to their magic resist.


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GrimGriz

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12-08-2009

okay - practice game with the 150 parley and 82 AP gave me 280-ish damage,
so it does still work :0)

I was just expecting moar, like 400


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reks

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12-08-2009

Did some sheen tests

level 11 Gangplank

items: sheen, sorcerer's shoes
test subject: basic minion

level 5 parlay 150 + 65% attack damage
i had 88 attack damage and 85 base damage

so parlay should hit for 150 + .65(88) ~ 207 damage

minion hits are for 319 damage

so sheen is adding roughly 112 or so damage, and that is far from my base attack

anyone know why my math is off?


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EchoRex

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12-08-2009

Sheen is being reduced by the 65% it appears.

[150+(85*0.65)] = 207.2 before Sheen
[150+(85*0.65)]*0.65 = 341.7 after Sheen

With a slight reduction in damage from minion defenses, to get 319 damage.

Atleast that is the only way the math can support those numbers.


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GrimGriz

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12-08-2009

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Did some sheen tests
items: sheen, sorcerer's shoes
I'm guessing your numbers are what they are because of the magic penetration of those shoes


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AIM7Sparrow

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12-08-2009

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winbeard wins because of the enormous cannon he carries around, and his pistol.
lmao


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reks

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12-08-2009

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I'm guessing your numbers are what they are because of the magic penetration of those shoes
i used the shoes to remove magic resistance from the problem so i could find out how much damage sheen actually adds to parlay